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| ET
01-28-2013 09:42:12
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My only thought would be that 3/5/7 cylinder engines are a naturaly balanced so they don't need harmonic balancer shafts or gear sets. Cheaper to build. |
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| longmeadow farm
01-28-2013 13:36:54
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Re: JD 5 cyl engines?? in reply to ET, 01-28-2013 09:42:12
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| 5 and 7 cylinder engines are not naturally balanced configurations. An inline 6 is but a v-6 is not. The physics of internal combustion engines is rather fascinating to read/discover. The 5 cylinder JD diesel is a rather noisy little beast and not nearly as smooth as my 3cylinder. |
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| freddy
01-30-2013 19:40:41
69.155.46.45
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Re: JD 5 cyl engines?? in reply to longmeadow farm, 01-28-2013 13:36:54
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| A 5 cylinder is much better balanced than a 4 which requires counter shafts. |
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| scotc
01-29-2013 17:32:36
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Re: JD 5 cyl engines?? in reply to longmeadow farm, 01-28-2013 13:36:54
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| Naturally balanced? I take it you mean internally versus externally balanced. Doesn't matter the configuration, the reciprocating assembly needs to be properly balanced or the thing's going to tear itself apart. A motor having more cylinders should run more smoothly. With 2, it fires every turn of the crank (unless it's a JD). 3 cylinders, every 2/3 turn, 4 cylinders, every 1/2 turn. 5 cylinders, every 2/5 turn, 12 cylinders, every 1/6 turn. |
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| ET
01-28-2013 17:05:45
184.8.249.150
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Re: JD 5 cyl engines?? in reply to longmeadow farm, 01-28-2013 13:36:54
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| The harmonic balancer on the inline 6 cylinders is part of the front crank pulley. |
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| buickanddeere
01-28-2013 15:03:32
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Re: JD 5 cyl engines?? in reply to longmeadow farm, 01-28-2013 13:36:54
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| I heard someone say one time.A five cylinder, the noise and vibration of a four with the fuel comsumption of a six. |
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| Wilamayb
01-28-2013 15:12:21
71.15.146.140
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Re: JD 5 cyl engines?? in reply to buickanddeere, 01-28-2013 15:03:32
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| I can attest to the noise! I remember when I was at the dealership that there was a 5000 series tractor that used it. I think it was the 5325?? I cant believe that any engineer stood beside the thing while it was running and was proud of their work. It was beyond loud! It was worse than the 3 or 4 cylinders found in any of the other 5000 seiries at the time. |
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| Tim S
01-28-2013 15:58:18
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Re: JD 5 cyl engines?? in reply to Wilamayb, 01-28-2013 15:12:21
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| I have a 5 cylinder in a VW Jetta runs smooth, spunky and gets 40MPG it's a gas |
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| Tim S
01-28-2013 10:43:06
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Re: JD 5 cyl engines?? in reply to ET, 01-28-2013 09:42:12
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| That and actual over/all length and HP.. |
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| Tx Jim
01-28-2013 11:05:36
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Re: JD 5 cyl engines?? in reply to Tim S, 01-28-2013 10:43:06
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| I wonder why has it taken this long for 5 cyl engines to be utilized in farm tractors. It has to be more to this than chassis length or balancer shafts. |
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| richardinnz
01-29-2013 03:32:44
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Re: JD 5 cyl engines?? in reply to Tx Jim, 01-28-2013 11:05:36
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| SAME/Lamborghini/Hurlimann used them in thier tractors, really sweet running. The John Deere lump is much more efficient at making noise! |
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| Tx Jim
01-29-2013 04:33:05
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Re: JD 5 cyl engines?? in reply to richardinnz, 01-29-2013 03:32:44
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| Thanks for the replies. One thing that started me to thinking about 5 cyl engines was that back a few months I sold an orange tractor that had a 5 cyl engine. It wasn't that fuel efficient nor was it that powerful. |
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| jd2cylman
01-29-2013 17:42:30
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Re: JD 5 cyl engines?? in reply to Tx Jim, 01-29-2013 04:33:05
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| Kubota used a 5 cylinder engine in the L4850/L5450 tractors in the '90's.
Nice running, smooth engines. Power was OK, never heard any complaints, but I never heard about economy. They must have had a changing of the guard at engineering, because the replacement series used turbo 4's. Maybe just emissions though. Never did any major work to those 5 cylinder engines. They had a neat sound.
Adrian |
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