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Re: Should it have been built?

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Bob Bancroft

01-23-2013 10:05:12
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Either they could see the future, or they were making it. I recently saved my fathers original 2510, so it has sentimental value. But it's too small to even pull a modern wagon around with, so I really need to turn it into something bigger. The 4030 just wasn't that much bigger, would be nearly as handy, yet there were never very many around here. But everybody had a 4230!




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NY 986

01-23-2013 10:27:38
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 Re: Should it have been built? in reply to Bob Bancroft, 01-23-2013 10:05:12  
Most likely Deere saw no future in the smaller row crops but other manufacturers sold row crops in the size I am talking about. Certainly they are small today but thinking back to the early 1970's the perception may have been different for the farmer. A small dairy farmer back then would have greatly appreciated such a tractor on days like we have had recently equipped with a SGB for chores such as spreading manure. I think Deere could have sold quite a few here in the Northeast and upper Mid-West. No doubt the primary tractor on a lot of farms at the intro of the 30 series was 100 plus hp but still a lot of guys did not like running the big horse on chores that could be done on a smaller tractor. At the same time guys certainly were not going to freeze their tails off out of principle, either.

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long green line man

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 Re: Should it have been built? in reply to NY 986, 01-23-2013 10:27:38  
Right on 986; I always felt engineers goofed putting a 6 cly. Dubuque engine in the 4030; ( basic 3020 sized tranny & rear end.) it would have been better matched fited with a Dubuque, 276 4 cly. ( or better yet a redesighed, power up, 3020 motor) similer to the power up 404... conserative dairy farmers of the 70's would never think of useing a 100-120 hp tractor to haul out a daily, winter, load of manure from 30 to 40 cow herd.. 50 to 60 hp was enough...

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Dalet

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 Re: Should it have been built? in reply to long green line man, 01-23-2013 19:02:16  
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I agree with this. Dad brought me up with using the right tool for the job. If the spreader didn't need 100hp, well, we used something smaller, even if there wasn't a cab. It's quite different these days. I see 4840's on stalk choppers and I even use my 4440 on the haybine. Its a 499NH. I like the ride and the cab.



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