Heard the 830 was being discussed here; interesting site but i don't get here often, so i may not know how it works, but i just wanted to raise a few points for thought, and to make sure i don't get maligned here. I am no JD expert, but I have sold a few.
I assume you have read JR's article which i referenced. He plainly states and I based my description on his words; that the 830's shipped before S# 1400 may number as high as 24 (Educated guess after he studied the shipping records)that were equipped with industrial features; and that only one of them is known to have left the factory painted green. Previous paragraph in the article he states that most of these early tractors were painted industrial yellow but at least one is known to have been painted green. My desire to find an earlier serial number was to try to see how this one fits into the progression of the tractors development. It seems logical to me that the earliest tractors would have had the most chance of being green.
Could this one be the earliest one built or known remaining and could it be the green one that J. R. Hobbs wrote of? Seems possible to me
There is NO doubt in my mind that the tractor we are offering was painted green on the assembly line, nor do I have any doubt that it was wearing Industrial accessories, options or heavy duty parts if you wish, when it came out of the plant for delivery.
Making the point that this small group of undocumented tractors built before S# 1400 are not countable as 830 industrials is splitting hairs in my mind. I know a few collectors that will be hard to convince that they really don't own an industrial 830 after all. I can also verify that very near to my home here in Pa there is 830 "Ind" with serial number in the mid 300's that when found was hooked to a pan and wearing a cab; all in yellow and apparently from new. It is currently the next lowest Industrial S# I have been able to find and it has pretty much every feature that any 830I which i have ever seen has.
I also added a paragraph on the end of the listing which should cover anyone's concerns as to risk of this tractor having been tampered with.
There is nothing to hide about this tractor and it speaks for itself. Its easier to defend than a restored green Industrial would be. If we are incorrect i don't want anyone "burnt" by it or to view it as an intentional act.
#208 tractor came off of an estate very recently, no heirs with any knowledge and it has been setting for quite a while. It was listed on e/bay because it is probably the fastest way to get the word out and turn it into a fair cash value. It would be great to have 3 months of time and a national advertising budget, but we don't have that luxury.
One additional question? At what S# did the "I" actually show on the serial plate of the 830 industrial tractors? Was told that not all tractors had an I on the tag.
thanks to all for your input and interest