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Re: 14t Baler - dealer/knotter issue

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12-01-2012 22:29:08

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[qudote="DaninKansas"](reply to post at 22:16:19 12/01/12) [/quote] Dan, check your wiper arm adjustment it should rub firmly against billhook to clean twine from billhook, also check twine knife it should be quite sharp to cleanly cut twine during knotting cycle, if these adjustments are not close the knots can hang up on billhook making a ball of twine on billhook, possably pulling one knot to be behind the other . also I would recomend picking up an owners manual they have a very good troubleshooting section in them. good luck, Andrew

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4240 Turbo

12-02-2012 06:25:31

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 Re: 14t Baler - dealer/knotter issue in reply to 9598Farmallred, 12-01-2012 22:29:08  
I agree 100% I had a 216 JD wire tie for years and me and my dad did all the work on those knotters, As well as some work for friends on a few other 14t balers. Now, my experience is the twine or wire tension coming from the box to the knotter is very important. Next thing is your twine guides, the porcelin ones, check these as well. Make sure none are missing, make sure that they don't have grooves worn deep into them, If there are any rollers lube them with penetrating oil and be sure that they turn freely, Another thing I have seen is the twine routed wrong, make sure this is right. double check, find a manual and a diagram if need be. I have seen a lot of people try to time JD and hesston inline balers that had no business working on them at all. I am not a mechanic, but neither are those guys. I went to the dealer to ask the baler tech one day about setting up a hesston 4655 rail and roller clearance for the plunger. He had no idea what I was talking about so we went out in the yard and I shoed him on a new machine. He replied "Well We don't mess with those, there is no reason to, we just buy new rails and rollers and that restores your clearances, if they are that bad there is no adjustment to correct it."

I first thought about asking for all their worn out rails and rollers for myself, then thought better of that and said thanks and went home and set my plunger clearances with feeler gauges, took about 1/2 hour. Still runs today. Don't trust the mechanics all the time, They have their place but noone knows everything.

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Rich Duane

12-02-2012 13:23:43

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 Re: 14t Baler - dealer/knotter issue in reply to 4240 Turbo, 12-02-2012 06:25:31  
I did a dumb thing this summer when a string broke.While re threading the needle I missed the roller. It kept breaking the twine and loading the billhook like you said, rethreaded putting the twine over the roller and it worked fine.

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Tim S

12-02-2012 14:04:58

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 Re: 14t Baler - dealer/knotter issue in reply to Rich Duane, 12-02-2012 13:23:43  
I have went out on service calls and found the twine on the back side of the needle roller, I always check the threading first then twine tension, then on from there...

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