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randyc1983

11-26-2012 10:52:54
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Any good supplier of new gas tanks for these old things. My b needs a gas tank. The one on it is nasty. I hate to buy a used one if I can get a new one.




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Ken11487

11-26-2012 17:32:30
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 Re: gas tanks in reply to randyc1983, 11-26-2012 10:52:54  
FIT Why is phosphoric acid better than muriatic?
Does it leave the surface more rust proofed.?



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F-I-T

11-26-2012 17:43:12
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 Re: gas tanks in reply to Ken11487, 11-26-2012 17:32:30  
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Yes. Muriatic, which is very strong molarity HCl, is so aggressive so as to erode so much metal, that you can ruin a thin tank wall very quickly. Additionally, the chloride salts that are left behind are near impossible to completely rinse out of the metal pores, so further deterioration can continue over time. Phosphoric acid, H3PO4, is pretty mild, and just barely etches the steel. It's the active ingredient in a "self-etching" primer. Also, when it reacts with red rust, it converts the red oxide to black oxide, which is inert to further oxidation, and can be painted over. It's the black finish on good tools and some gun parts. H3PO4 also leaves behind a phosphate flash that will further inhibit red rust from forming. When I use electrolysis to clean and de-rust parts, I spritz them with H3PO4 since they as so rust free they will begin for flash rust if not treated. I can store cleaned sheet metal or wheel rims for years in my very humid Florida shop once they have been treated with phosphoric acid.

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Dan in Ohio

11-26-2012 15:13:13
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 Re: gas tanks in reply to randyc1983, 11-26-2012 10:52:54  
randy,

I got one for my 60 from Dengler vintage tractor parts in Middletown Ohio. Good as new.



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F-I-T

11-26-2012 13:24:48
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 Re: gas tanks in reply to randyc1983, 11-26-2012 10:52:54  
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Does yours leak, or is it just grungy? I've been pretty successful cleaning and de-rusting them. Wrote a procedure if you are interested.

http://www.fboerger.com/restorationtips.html#fuel



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jdman(mo)

11-26-2012 13:54:58
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 Re: gas tanks in reply to F-I-T, 11-26-2012 13:24:48  
Would that be straight or deluded acid? Russ



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F-I-T

11-26-2012 14:23:53
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 Re: gas tanks in reply to jdman(mo), 11-26-2012 13:54:58  
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Deluded? No, it's not confused.

Straight H3PO4 out of the jug. NOT Muriatic acid.



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gtx1967jewison

11-27-2012 03:06:53
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 Re: gas tanks in reply to F-I-T, 11-26-2012 14:23:53  
Where can u buy it & what might it be called at the store? Id love to try your procedure :-)
Thanks!



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F-I-T

11-27-2012 03:23:32
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 Re: gas tanks in reply to gtx1967jewison, 11-27-2012 03:06:53  
Here's a couple that I find locally at Lowe's/Home Depot. Other brands include Ospho, and Phos-Pho-Ric+, and those are often found at your automotive paint products supplier. Stuff runs from $8-10 a gallon, and lasts a long time. When I break the seal on a gallon, I put a replacement gallon on my list. It's handy to have around.


This post was edited by F-I-T at 03:29:12 11/27/12.

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jdman(mo)

11-26-2012 16:01:10
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 Re: gas tanks in reply to F-I-T, 11-26-2012 14:23:53  
Thanks. Russ



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