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jimwa

10-31-2012 20:48:21
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Mr thinker recommended using number 1 diesel to clean out the diesel tractors that don"t get enough work. I went to purchase number 1 diesel and they took it from a kerosene tank. They said heating oil # 1, kerosene and diesel # 1 are all the same. Then they said I shouldn"t use straight #1 but mix it with #2.
What do you think?




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DEEREMEYER1

11-02-2012 09:11:49
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 Re: Fuel question in reply to jimwa, 10-31-2012 20:48:21  
#1 is a ligher, thinner fuel with lower energy content and really isn't recommended for use except in very cold conditions. There are plenty of diesel fuel additives that will give you the results you're looking for simply by adding them to #2 fuel.



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PopinJohn

11-01-2012 18:28:07
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 Re: Fuel question in reply to jimwa, 10-31-2012 20:48:21  
Depends on the climate, hot vs cold. I remember reading that "winterized" #2 Diesel is blended with #1 for use below freezing temperatures. #2 Diesel will gel in cold weather. I don't see anything wrong with Mr. Thinkers suggestion in the context he provided.



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nlastovi

10-31-2012 21:45:11
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 Re: Fuel question in reply to jimwa, 10-31-2012 20:48:21  
According to BP:

http://www.fuelcertification.com/docs/fuel-composition/Distillate_Fuel_Classifications.pdf

Grade No. 1-D and kerosene are very similar in their

physical characteristics although different in their

specifications. Therefore, sometimes their names

are used interchangeably by customers. The

specification for 1-D fuels is based on the fuelís ability

to perform in a diesel engine as opposed to the

specification for 1-K fuels, which is based on heating

appliance applications. 1-D and 1-K have different

specifications, but because they are so similar, one

fuel is often made to meet both 1-D and 1-K

specifications. Check with your BP, Amoco or Arco

supplier to determine if 1-K can be substituted with 1-

D. The biggest difference between 1-K and 1-D is in

their end use, the application of road taxes, and

maximum sulfur content levels.

The grade 2-D (also called #2 or No. 2 diesel fuel) is

designed for use in heavy duty trucks, construction

equipment, farm equipment, diesel passenger cars,

etc. Most diesel engines are designed to burn 2-D

fuel. Itís a "heavier" fuel than 1-D (lower API gravity

than 1-D) and it has higher BTU/gallons (more

miles/gallon and more power). No. 2 diesel fuel from

Arco, BP, and Amoco is an economic 40-cetane

minimum, high BTU, ASTM No. 2 grade diesel fuel.

For further information on BP fuels, contact:

BP Quality & Technical Service

Phone: 1-800-841-5255

BP Naperville Complex

150 West Warrenville Road

Naperville, Illinois 60563-8460

Website: www.bp.com

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leon

11-01-2012 07:46:40
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 Re: Fuel question in reply to nlastovi, 10-31-2012 21:45:11  
So, discuss some about your thought on using No. 2 Diesel with cold weather additives versus using straight No. 1 Diesel - I'm thinking of when the temp's drop well below freezing, say down to -20F.



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wijim

11-01-2012 16:42:59
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 Re: Fuel question in reply to leon, 11-01-2012 07:46:40  
Around here we blend 30% NO 1 TO 70% NO 2 for winter. Jim



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donjr

10-31-2012 21:07:46
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 Re: Fuel question in reply to jimwa, 10-31-2012 20:48:21  
#1 or kerosene is good for winter fuel, but it won't get the work out that #2 will. It will help clean the injectors, as will many of the additives on the market. But #2 is the preferred fuel.



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