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chas036 08-19-2012 12:41:49 69.204.204.77 Report to Moderator	What is a quick test to see if your oil pump is working? My gage is reading stop but the tractor runs fine. How can I tell if the problem is the pump or the gage. Do gages ever go bad? [Reply]   [No Email]
Rwolfejr 08-23-2012 09:00:29 67.163.184.160 Report to Moderator	Re: JD 60 Oil Pressure Gage in reply to chas036, 08-19-2012 12:41:49   Get a rubber tip for your blow gun and blast air in the line and see where the air comes out. I don't know if the plumbing is anything like an R or 820? (The only two I've ever had apart.) but maybe the guy who left a hunk of wood in the forgot to re-connect the line to the manifold? [Reply]  [No Email]
chas036 08-22-2012 16:45:27 69.204.204.77 Report to Moderator	Re: JD 60 Oil Pressure Gage in reply to chas036, 08-19-2012 12:41:49   I filled the crankcase with oil and turned the crank by hand and saw oil was comming out the filter canister so I know the pump is working. I then turned the engine over for about 30 sec using the battery and noticed oil dripping from the main bearings and rod bearings, and the oil filter canister filled up completely, so now I know the pump is working fine. But I still have no oil comming from the oil pressure line at the block. I put my finger over the line and fill no pressure wehat so ever. I ran a wire down the pipe and it seems open. What else could it be that is causing no oil to come out this pipe? I am at a lost for what to do. [Reply]  [No Email]
Rwolfejr 08-21-2012 06:03:16 67.163.184.160 Report to Moderator	Re: JD 60 Oil Pressure Gage in reply to chas036, 08-19-2012 12:41:49   Yes, it'll need to fill the filter can first. Goes from the pan... into the pump... into the filter housing... from the filter to the manifold... from amnifold to all the points it needs to go including the gage line. So you found a board inside the thing... That's pretty crazy. Wonder if the previous owner had the gage line off for a spell and those pesky little bees might've plugged the hole? I'd pull the plugs and roll it over with the line off at the block. If no oil then run the regulator in a little. Still nothing run it in a bunch just to see. Still nothing pull the regulator off and see if your leaf spring looking thing is broken and all the oil maybe by-passing? Also... With the regulator off you should shoot a hefty stream of oil a good ways if you roll it a second or two... Good luck, Bob [Reply]  [No Email]
chas036 08-22-2012 08:23:59 157.225.178.103 Report to Moderator	Re: JD 60 Oil Pressure Gage in reply to Rwolfejr, 08-21-2012 06:03:16   What is the regulator? Is this the bolt you adjust to increase or decrease the pressure? If I have to remove it, how do you go about getting in there to remove the oil lines? [Reply]  [No Email]
chas036 08-21-2012 05:07:03 157.225.178.103 Report to Moderator	Re: JD 60 Oil Pressure Gage in reply to chas036, 08-19-2012 12:41:49   I have cleaned out the crankcase and the screen looks open and clean. The coupling turns so I assume the pump gears are working. If I fill with new oil and turn the engine by hand, should I see oil comming out of the of the oil pressure line at the governor housing, or does it have to fill the oil filter canister first before it comes out the other tubes? [Reply]  [No Email]
jdv 08-19-2012 21:20:16 67.209.220.236 Report to Moderator	Re: JD 60 Oil Pressure Gage in reply to chas036, 08-19-2012 12:41:49   sounds like the 2x4 was made to plug a hole and fell out maybe an oil galley or something. Never know what some people will do. [Reply]  [No Email]
Fred from MO 08-19-2012 16:14:11 64.22.255.146 Report to Moderator	Re: JD 60 Oil Pressure Gage in reply to chas036, 08-19-2012 12:41:49   My experience with the 60 oil pump/pressure, is it takes a few seconds for the pressure to build to the gauge. Also I have learned most of the aftermarket gauges do not read acuratly like the fellow mentioned below. One sure way like the others have said is to crack the line at the governor and run the engine for a couple of seconds. You should get oil to build up and come squirting out. Also my experience has been the cheap gauges, like the one I have, runs normal between the "L" and "M", however, I have used a calibrated pressure gauge to measure the oil pressure just at the governor port and it reads 14.7 PSI. Well within the requirement. These aftermarket gauges are not that good. People suggest Evergreen Guage, I would try them next time around when my cheapo quits. [Reply]  [No Email]
Bob Harvey 08-19-2012 13:34:01 209.91.107.159 Report to Moderator	Re: JD 60 Oil Pressure Gage in reply to chas036, 08-19-2012 12:41:49   Quick test is disconnect the line from the guage (or at the block) and turn the engine over. Oil comes out, it (the pump) is working. [Reply]  [No Email]
1949ABG 08-19-2012 13:11:59 208.126.169.31 Report to Moderator	Re: JD 60 Oil Pressure Gage in reply to chas036, 08-19-2012 12:41:49   Gauges do go bad, but the only accurate way to know for sure is to test with an oil pressure tester. If you do need a new gauge, I would recommend Evergreen restoration or your local Deere dealer. The cheapos on EBay, etc. aren't very accurate! [Reply]  [No Email]
chas036 08-19-2012 13:32:26 69.204.204.77 Report to Moderator	Re: JD 60 Oil Pressure Gage in reply to 1949ABG, 08-19-2012 13:11:59   I just disconnected the oil pressure gage line at the governor housing and turned over the engine and I am getting no oil or feeling no pressure when I put my finger over the hole. Is this normal when turning over the engine with the starter? [Reply]  [No Email]
Bob Harvey 08-19-2012 13:35:47 209.91.107.159 Report to Moderator	Re: JD 60 Oil Pressure Gage in reply to chas036, 08-19-2012 13:32:26   Nope. [Reply]  [No Email]
chas036 08-19-2012 13:39:36 69.204.204.77 Report to Moderator	Re: JD 60 Oil Pressure Gage in reply to Bob Harvey, 08-19-2012 13:35:47   What would be the next thing I should do if I am not getting any pressure? [Reply]  [No Email]
Bob Harvey 08-19-2012 13:43:20 209.91.107.159 Report to Moderator	Re: JD 60 Oil Pressure Gage in reply to chas036, 08-19-2012 13:39:36   Take the crank cover off and have a look (not too easy to see). I think (not positive, it's been a while) you can see the pump and lines and coupler. HTH [Reply]  [No Email]
chas036 08-19-2012 13:46:12 69.204.204.77 Report to Moderator	Re: JD 60 Oil Pressure Gage in reply to Bob Harvey, 08-19-2012 13:43:20   What would i be looking for? [Reply]  [No Email]
Bob Harvey 08-19-2012 13:58:07 209.91.107.159 Report to Moderator	Re: JD 60 Oil Pressure Gage in reply to chas036, 08-19-2012 13:46:12   The coupler broken or missing. I suggest you find the Service Manual # SM2008. You will have to drain the oil to see most of the stuff, but I think the coupler 'may' be above. A mirror and good lite will help. Luck ! [Reply]  [No Email]
Bob Harvey 08-19-2012 14:01:29 209.91.107.159 Report to Moderator	Re: JD 60 Oil Pressure Gage in reply to Bob Harvey, 08-19-2012 13:58:07   P.S. the coupler is a square tube on top of the pump shaft, approx 1 1/4" x 1 1/4" x 1 1/4"-again not positive about the size, but close enough for folk music! [Reply]  [No Email]
chas036 08-19-2012 16:47:42 69.204.204.77 Report to Moderator	Re: JD 60 Oil Pressure Gage in reply to Bob Harvey, 08-19-2012 14:01:29   I took the cover off the crank case and drained the oil and found a piece of 2x4 about 5" long by 2.5" wide and carved with a rounded end at one end and a concave at the other. Looks like it mightt have been used in the last rebuild for something. It was up against the screen, but there was still alot of screen open so I don't think this was the problem why I was getting no pressure. Everything looks good, all the lines are attached and the coupling seems to be in place. If I leave the cover off and fill it with kerosene and just turn the engine over with the battery, should I get kerosene sparying out the oil pressure line at the governor housing, or does the engine have to run longer to build up pressure? [Reply]  [No Email]
Kurt_JDB 08-20-2012 13:16:47 70.154.102.34 Report to Moderator	Re: JD 60 Oil Pressure Gage in reply to chas036, 08-19-2012 16:47:42   First I would turn the engine over by hand (take the spark plugs out) and look at the oil pump shaft and see if it is turning. The coupler could be cracked or otherwise broken so the pump won't turn. After making sure the coupler is doing it's job, I would drop the oil pump out of the tractor and take it apart, and assess its condition. Clean the screen. If all this checks out, it could be that you have a broken oil pressure regulator, or a really big leak somewhere. It often happens that the oil filter cover is over tightened, and the filter head deforms the top of the filter can. Big leak. I don't have a 60, but I think it has the same arrangement with the oil filter as the B or 50 tractor. Good luck! [Reply]  [No Email]
BSpauld 08-20-2012 04:39:55 64.12.117.12 Report to Moderator	Re: JD 60 Oil Pressure Gage in reply to chas036, 08-19-2012 16:47:42   The piece of 2x4 probably was made to push the pistons out of the cylinders. concave on the throw, convex in the rod end [Reply]  [No Email]
Bob Harvey 08-19-2012 18:57:18 209.91.107.159 Report to Moderator	Re: JD 60 Oil Pressure Gage in reply to chas036, 08-19-2012 16:47:42   What made you think of kerosene?, it is a LOT thinner than oil. [Reply]  [No Email]
Bob Harvey 08-19-2012 19:01:00 209.91.107.159 Report to Moderator	Re: JD 60 Oil Pressure Gage in reply to Bob Harvey, 08-19-2012 18:57:18   I would also think removing the "2x4" is a good idea. Again, good luck. These machines are pretty simple, so, think it out. HPH [Reply]  [No Email]
markjd60 08-20-2012 07:58:08 108.72.101.206 Report to Moderator	Re: JD 60 Oil Pressure Gage in reply to Bob Harvey, 08-19-2012 19:01:00   the 60 has adjustable oil pressure down by the belt pully there is a squair bolt pull it ,, id tested it with a made up low pressure gauge fited to the top of the block by the govener 15 lbs is what it should be, do dont buy gauges form ebay, my amp gauge said john deere was made in china and bounces, get a green magzine guy sells good JOHN DEERE gauges out of it , if you dont got with a john deere Guage BUY S&W [Reply]  [No Email]
Bob Harvey 08-20-2012 15:16:42 209.91.107.159 Report to Moderator	Re: JD 60 Oil Pressure Gage in reply to markjd60, 08-20-2012 07:58:08   This is hilarious, I tried to use the definition of 'assume' ; where the word makes an axx(note the correction) out of u and me (me in this case). You are correct of course and I assumed that the adjustment screw was known. [Reply]  [No Email]