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6030 and 7x18 onland plow

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Big Jugs

12-12-2011 18:25:35
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I have a 6030...question is...what's it gonna take to pull a 7x18 onland plow? Not worried about the ponies-got that:) Wanting to know what range of weight is needed(weighs 12,500 now) would 15-15,500 be enough for traction? Can't use duals. Could add fluid in 20.8x38s. What ya think?




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Howard H.

12-13-2011 09:57:32
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 Re: 6030 and 7x18 onland plow in reply to Big Jugs, 12-12-2011 18:25:35  
I agree with most of the guys that its not going to pull it too well if your soil is heavy.

Besides, even if you CAN - I'd still be leery if you SHOULD! We broke 3 axles on Dad's 6030 over the years of hard, hard old plowing... Not to mention several clutches... And it now sits with a rear axle bearing blown out on it.


Howard



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Ralph Bauer

12-13-2011 17:21:40
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 Re: 6030 and 7x18 onland plow in reply to Howard H., 12-13-2011 09:57:32  
Howdy neighbor ! ...Is y'all's an O.S.?? Interested in selling? e-mail is open.



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larryanderson

12-13-2011 08:45:01
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 Re: 6030 and 7x18 onland plow in reply to Big Jugs, 12-12-2011 18:25:35  
Cool looking tractor but in the real world horsepower not hooked up doesnt pull the kind of load you have.We had a new 6030 and traction was similar to a 4840 which we traded it for to get better cab.I just weighed a 6030 open station with rollbar and canopy no weights and it was less than 14000.The easiest way to plow is get a 6 bottom and roll.We did pull an 8/18 with our 8640 but thats a whole different deal.We used to think 5mph with 5 bottom would do about same amount as 6 at 4.6030s are real attention getters.

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gpuller

12-13-2011 07:48:35
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 Re: 6030 and 7x18 onland plow in reply to Big Jugs, 12-12-2011 18:25:35  
I think your gonna need a more weight or a smaller plow. Our 4840 pulled 7 btm on land plow for years. It has a full rack of weights on the front (20), factory cast for the duals and 1500lbs on the inside drivers with 20.8-42 radials. Biggest problem is keeping the front down.

The soil is heavier here than what your used to up there. You might remember pulling down here?

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Big Jugs

12-14-2011 06:28:24
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 Re: 6030 and 7x18 onland plow in reply to gpuller, 12-13-2011 07:48:35  
Now that's a "perty tractor!"



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JDBert

12-13-2011 07:46:28
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 Re: 6030 and 7x18 onland plow in reply to Big Jugs, 12-12-2011 18:25:35  
Dale- how about a band dual setup? You could drill holes in your tin rims for the eyes of the hooks. It all depends on the rims style to though- not really sure if those rims would accept the band of the duals. I'd say in your ground if you weight up the belly bars and the rear you might be ok. One thing I've learned when plowing with the pulling tractors- run ready rod through the weights and bolt them together and or use a rachet strap and tie them on. Make sure your mounting bolts are up to the weight- its a whole new ball game for those mounting bolts in a field compared to a smooth track and pit area!! Finding and digging up weights is not fun!!! OH by the way- I got a turbo setup that works and is pretty easy to find if your still looking to go that route- just drop me or gpuller a line and I'll tell you whats shaken to get some more horse.

Later

Rob

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Tom 43

12-13-2011 07:07:01
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 Re: 6030 and 7x18 onland plow in reply to Big Jugs, 12-12-2011 18:25:35  
Unless you are plowing sand 3 inches deep, you need a much bigger tractor or a lot smaller plow!



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cumminspuller

12-13-2011 05:50:05
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 Re: 6030 and 7x18 onland plow in reply to Big Jugs, 12-12-2011 18:25:35  
If it was still a farm tractor I'd say yes no problem. I think you are going to have a lot of traction issues. I'd guess you would need somewhere around 18k-20k at the least in the ground we have around here(red clay).



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Brian Dan

12-13-2011 04:01:54
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 Re: 6030 and 7x18 onland plow in reply to Big Jugs, 12-12-2011 18:25:35  
Back in (The DAY) we used to pull 7-18 on land with A John Deere 5020. It had factory cast duals. We could pull it in most ground in 3rd. If you do not have the weight regardless of HP you will maybe only be able to pull a 5 bottom plow.



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5020s rock

12-13-2011 03:15:34
24.11.245.72



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 Re: 6030 and 7x18 onland plow in reply to Big Jugs, 12-12-2011 18:25:35  
sharp tractor.....why turn dirt with it? drive it around and pick-up the ladies.....



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Eric Hartman

12-12-2011 20:15:48
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 Re: 6030 and 7x18 onland plow in reply to Big Jugs, 12-12-2011 18:25:35  
Are you sure you are only talking about 12,500 pounds? Our 6030 weighs in at 24,000 pounds with no fluid, but it does have the 1500 pound wheel weights on the rear, inside 24.5 x 32 tires, plus the cast iron 18.4 x 38 duals, 600 pounds of front suitcase weights, an auxillary 50 gallon fuel tank, and the factory option of the "Hinson" cab with the solid steel roll-bar. In this area, I would be comfortable with a 6 - 18 plow, but I would not want to attempt pulling the 7 - 18 plow.

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Tim S

12-12-2011 21:11:43
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 Re: 6030 and 7x18 onland plow in reply to Eric Hartman, 12-12-2011 20:15:48  
That's more like what I was thinking Eric,they are heavey Horses, and it does depend on the soil conditions, Oh my how they vary, years ago we rented a farm to our south that had Red Clay spots in it, at that time we were pulling a 6X16 in furrow plow with our near new 4630, it handeled it nice in our home area,,but when we got into that "Red Dog" we we wishing it was a 4 bottom, worked the crapp out of the old gal in that stuff..

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billonthefarm

12-12-2011 19:42:48
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 Re: 6030 and 7x18 onland plow in reply to Big Jugs, 12-12-2011 18:25:35  
Depends ALOT on where you are. Here it would take 250hp, over 20K lbs and a good set of dualled rubber. There were very few 6-18 plows here and the only ones bigger were pulled with articulated 4 wheel drives. Got any pics of that there 6030??? bill



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Big Jugs

12-12-2011 21:11:05
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 Re: 6030 and 7x18 onland plow in reply to billonthefarm, 12-12-2011 19:42:48  

ok...yes-it's ONLY 12,500! been stripped for pulling. no wheel weights, steel rims, cut-off axles,weld on hubs, 20.8x38 no fluid. can add suitcase to rear and belly brackets to get it to 15,500lbs.CANNOT add duals because of hub abd steel wheel combination-get the picture now?? Pump is turned up but that's all-and many guys have said they farm with them at this H.P. I have all level, on the lighter side of soil. I can add fluid to tires. This is a summer puller.

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Eric Hartman

12-14-2011 19:52:52
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 Re: 6030 and 7x18 onland plow in reply to Big Jugs, 12-12-2011 21:11:05  
Now I can see what and how you are dealing with 12,500 pounds. Beautiful looking tractor! Green and yellow paint..............leaping Deere..................burns gasoline or diesel fuel.............I am interested. The one we have is in its working clothes. Hope to some day soon, doll it up like yours. Again, very nice tractor.



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Ralph Bauer

12-13-2011 17:08:51
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 Re: 6030 and 7x18 onland plow in reply to Big Jugs, 12-12-2011 21:11:05  
Sweet 6030! If she's got a twin, I really would like her... even if she's a little more "heavyset" ....!! lol
Keep plowing!



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Big Jugs

12-12-2011 21:16:43
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 Re: 6030 and 7x18 onland plow in reply to Big Jugs, 12-12-2011 21:11:05  
In NW Wisconsin-silt-loam soils.



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TiredA

12-13-2011 07:23:13
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 Re: 6030 and 7x18 onland plow in reply to Big Jugs, 12-12-2011 21:16:43  
What the hell Jugs? Is that a new requirement to pull in farmstock now in Wisconsin?(too much smoke and they wont beleive you can still do fieldwork?) Or did you rent a bunch of land? Maybe you could weld the axle stubs back on if you didnt throw them away. lol. Merry Christmas from the boys in southern Minnesota.



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Big Jugs

12-13-2011 20:13:57
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 Re: 6030 and 7x18 onland plow in reply to TiredA, 12-13-2011 07:23:13  
Hey Tired...yeah, pretty much the deal now. And it blows NO smoke! But if it's painted up, and belongs to me....it can't be stock, according to one of the biggest cheaters back in the day. Did buy another extra 110 this fall.One of these days Bill and I will roll down and see you guys. I just came across a pretty good deal on a plow and wondered if I should buy it under these conditions.



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Tim S

12-12-2011 21:15:28
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 Re: 6030 and 7x18 onland plow in reply to Big Jugs, 12-12-2011 21:11:05  
Okay, I see she has been on a diet, nice looking tractor..she will need to put on some work clothe to pull that big plow.



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Tim S

12-12-2011 18:50:58
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 Re: 6030 and 7x18 onland plow in reply to Big Jugs, 12-12-2011 18:25:35  
My guess is it weighs more than 12,500, I pulled 7X16's with a 4630 in furrow, it weighed about 18,500, dual on the land side,, your 6030 will out do a 4630 any day...



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