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4230 add turbo

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Shawn W

08-14-2011 16:22:13
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Hello,
Ok I know this has been discussed several times but I lost all my notes I had, and cant find exactly what im looking for in a search.
I have a stock 4230 i want to turn into a farmstock/barnyard puller.
I need to be able to keep the stock appering standyne pump and injector line. To add a turbo, I think we use a combination of 4430 and 4320 parts. Like a 4320 intake and exhaust and the 4430 elbow? Which turbo do you run, something like a 3lm466 or a to4? I dont want an M&W setup.
How much fuel can you push thought stock lines? How much will the stock pump flow? I"m sure it needs worked over, just how much bigger will it go.
I am shooting for 350 horses. If I cant get there with stock parts, What is a parts list I would need if I put a 55 series head on it and started from there? My options are open at this time, and we will go from there depending on how deep my wifes pockets are! Im not wanting an IPA farmers tractor, just something I can have a lot of fun with that will hold together. Thanks for any ideas and advice.
Shawn

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shawn w

08-16-2011 12:34:26
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 Re: 4230 add turbo in reply to Shawn W, 08-14-2011 16:22:13  
Well thanks guys
You have told me exactly what to do.
I'm going to park the 4230 in the weeds.
Go half with a buddy and finish his old junk 1066. We should have it running with just a little extra beer money.
We have lots of help and friends pulling IH and he already has a 1066 IPA tractor. I just thought it would be nice to start with a tractor already on the farm.



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Big 86

08-16-2011 19:29:51
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 Re: 4230 add turbo in reply to shawn w, 08-16-2011 12:34:26  
"I'm going to park the 4230 in the weeds."

Why are you going to park the tractor in the weeds??



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smittyjd

08-16-2011 16:40:56
98.21.72.249



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 Re: 4230 add turbo in reply to shawn w, 08-16-2011 12:34:26  
traitor...lol
i don't have that much money in my 4430, but i sure can run with the red ones and still farm at the same time!



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cumminspuller

08-15-2011 07:22:03
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 Re: 4230 add turbo in reply to Shawn W, 08-14-2011 16:22:13  
I myself wouldn't start with a 4230 just for the fact of the motor. Its a good setup to farm with. Not so much on the pull track. Like stated before, you want a A pump or a P pump to pull with. Easier to get the fuel out of them as opposed to a rotary pump. You can turn the fuel up some but I'm thinking 350hp is a bit out of the question with the 4230 pump. Get you a good 4430 or 4440 and its easy. A buddy of mine has one that we have tweaked on a little and will run it against the big tractors in the dual wheel farm class. Beats 200+ HP magnums and 8000 deeres 80% of the time!

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larryanderson

08-15-2011 03:41:19
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 Re: 4230 add turbo in reply to Shawn W, 08-14-2011 16:22:13  
Shawn,past experience has shown that things that start out fun in motorsports usually get expensive.The turbo is just a start as 350H.P.takes a better clutch and a decent fuel system.The cheapest power for the money comes in the IH tractors that pretty much dominate the type of pulling you describe plus they cost about half as much.



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smittyjd

08-15-2011 02:45:47
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 Re: 4230 add turbo in reply to Shawn W, 08-14-2011 16:22:13  
trade it in on a 4430 and turn the fuel up in it. then no one can cry about what you did to your tractor



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Craig C

08-14-2011 19:35:05
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 Re: 4230 add turbo in reply to Shawn W, 08-14-2011 16:22:13  
Why are you still wanting to call it a 4230? I don't understand how you can still be farm stock, when a 4230 didn't have a turbo. I thought that farm stock meant that it had to look like a 4230 was supposed to. We are in process of building a 4020 to play with, but when it is done, it will look like a completely restored <100hp 67 model. It will have mods on the inside, but exterior is 4020. I agree with Tim, about working hard trying to keep farm machinery rolling, thats why our 4020 is such a long term project. The working horses get the most attention this time of year. If you need 350 hp lengthen the frame and drop an 855 cummins in it and paint it green. I actually know a fellow that put a 903 cummins in a 5010 and used it on the farm. In the pic a saw it had saddle tanks and a big disc behind it.

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dieseldoc

08-14-2011 18:22:59
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 Re: 4230 add turbo in reply to Shawn W, 08-14-2011 16:22:13  
first thing is get rid of the 404 and put a 466 in it. while your at it put a stroker crank in it and get cubes up to 640.Get a good A pump or P pump if your class will allow.Then run a 3lm466 or an hx55 or 60 then get a clutch.Most important thing is call the bank and make sure you have at least 50 grand in there.I also forgot water injection,fire rings,cam,55 series head,etc. If you want to compete you got to spend the money. Or you could just pull it the way it is and you will probably have just as much fun and still be able to mow hay with it the next day.

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Tim S

08-14-2011 17:34:11
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 Re: 4230 add turbo in reply to Shawn W, 08-14-2011 16:22:13  
Wow more questions than a final exam....First what is the serial # of your 4230, the older ones had a smaller clutch operating piston and don't work out so well. A 55 series head is good, an enhanced TO4 is good, an inline Bosh pump will be necessary, which may kick you into a different class than you will be ready for, a 4630 style pump with larger plungers and barrels will give you enough fuel to break things..a 4430 manifold with a 4320 elbow will get you headed up the same hole in the hood with a bit of an off-set..there is a lot more to this than it seems that you are ready for,,most of us on this site are just trying to keep the planter moving and the cattle fed....But pulling can be a lot of fun, and it is a complex sport to say the least..

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