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1947 John Deere FB Grain Drill manual

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Ralph Wilks

03-19-2007 07:25:40
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I recently bought a 1949 John Deere FB grain drill in good working order. Unfortunately the manual is not. The owners manual that came with it had been in a fire and almost half of the pages were burnt. Does anyone know where I might be able to locate another one manual in better shape.

Thanks for your help in advance.




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CLTX

03-20-2007 07:03:09
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 Re: 1947 John Deere FB Grain Drill manual in reply to Ralph Wilks, 03-19-2007 07:25:40  
Glen in TX, a few weeks previously, I had asked you about the FB drills with steel wheels. The mention you made yesterday in this discussion is probably the model my father bought in the early 40's. He bought one new in either 1942 or '43, and bought a used one a year later. Both were identical, as best as I can remember. The first thing he did was open the lids, using them as the front of an extention, with galvanized metal to complete the extention. which doubled the capacity of both compartments. They were still working fine in 1959, the last year we farmed.

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Glen in TX

03-19-2007 08:42:52
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 Re: 1947 John Deere FB Grain Drill manual in reply to Ralph Wilks, 03-19-2007 07:25:40  

Pic shows just a FB drill but yes there was a earlier just plain F model and later versions as well FB-A and FB-B. Find more drill pics in implement photos section under my handle or searching with your drill model. JD publications should list something for all those F versions.

The operators manual for FB was originally OM-M2-355 but will find it now with JD publicatons or JD parts online as OMM2355 so still the same number really. PC149 parts catalog covers the FB model only. JD publications should have copies available or you might search for those in online auctions or ads or with other old literature vendors.

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Ralph Wilks

03-19-2007 08:58:55
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 Re: 1947 John Deere FB Grain Drill manual in reply to Glen in TX, 03-19-2007 08:42:52  
Thanks Glen!! I found the exact manual in the link provided. There is also a parts manual I can order.

You folks are sure a wealth of information. I just hope I can help someone that way you have me.

Appreciate it!!



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Glen in TX

03-19-2007 09:07:22
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 Re: 1947 John Deere FB Grain Drill manual in reply to Ralph Wilks, 03-19-2007 08:58:55  

Good deal. I saw they still have the other manual like you have listed also. This is a pic off cover of assembly manual for FB-B and DF-B drills. Most of the later drills would have a tag on end of grain box with model and serial number but early ones didn't.



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almrm

03-19-2007 11:26:14
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 Re: 1947 John Deere FB Grain Drill manual in reply to Glen in TX, 03-19-2007 09:07:22  
I have a 17 hoe FB-B drill and used it last spring for oats and alfalfa on 30 acres. I pull a 12 foot Brillion packer with 4 inch axle behind it. Mine has no cover chains. I had a nice crop of oats and a real nice catch of alfalfa. The FB-B lable is on the rigth end of right grain box as viewed from the rear of the unit. The origional paint is in very good shape and looks new inside the boxes along with the seed rate charts. Tip: If you use it, make sure after you clean the boxes you vaccuum them out with the shop vac. Even stored inside I had some germinated seed in a few meter openings in the grass seed box and it is difficult to clear.

Mark

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Ralph Wilks

03-19-2007 11:54:23
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 Re: 1947 John Deere FB Grain Drill manual in reply to almrm, 03-19-2007 11:26:14  
Mark, Mine is a 13 hole with the chains, little rust with the step on the back. Fertilizer bins are like new. I still haven't found the label on it. Thanks for tip about vacuumning out the box and such. I was planning on getting the fertilizer from the feed store with their spreader instead of doing it with the grain drill. That's what the previous owner has done.

I want to plant a mixture of grass seed for a hay crop. I need to wait for the snow to melt off. Just getting ready for spring to sprung.

Ralph

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buickanddeere

03-19-2007 15:30:48
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 Re: 1947 John Deere FB Grain Drill manual in reply to Ralph Wilks, 03-19-2007 11:54:23  
I have an FB as well with the cast iron plate fertilzer box and grass seeder. It's in good shape however the fertilzer corroded the fertilzer chutes and the grain/fertilizer mixing chute at the top of the drop tubes.Mother Deere still sels new one for a price.... I just removed and never replaced the fertilizer chutes. If a drop tube plugs there is now a spot for the seed to drop out of. Not as manny missed streaks in the field. The disks are getting worn and plugged openers are all to common. Around here the supply store sells bulk fertizer and supply the spreader. Cheaper than purchasing bagged fertilzer and bonus no corrosion on the seed drill. Keep searching for gease fittings. There are dozens of places to lube as well as the wheel drive chains.

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Ralph Wilks

03-19-2007 16:16:15
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 Re: 1947 John Deere FB Grain Drill manual in reply to buickanddeere, 03-19-2007 15:30:48  
Yep, I plan on doing the bulk spreader rather than eating up the bins on the drill. Lot easier on the back also :-)



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almrm

03-19-2007 14:42:28
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 Re: 1947 John Deere FB Grain Drill manual in reply to Ralph Wilks, 03-19-2007 11:54:23  
Ralph,

Your drill sounds like a nice complete piece. If you want light grasses in your hay mix like brome, timothy, orchard, they often do not flow well through the drill. Some mix them with oats or rye and they flow better. An alternative is to have the co-op mix it with the fertilizer at the rate you want it and apply it with their spreader. The grass seed will not throw as far as the fertilizer so you have the co-op mix a full rate for grass seed and half rate for fertilizer and cut the pass spacing from 40 ft. to 20 ft. Then run the drill with the legume seed (clover, alfalfa, etc.) in the grass box and a companion crop of oats or something if you choose through the grain box. I currently seed oats and pure alfalfa and sell the hay, but I have used this process in the past.

Good luck and come on spring.

Mark

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Ralph Wilks

03-19-2007 15:05:11
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 Re: 1947 John Deere FB Grain Drill manual in reply to almrm, 03-19-2007 14:42:28  
Great suggestions!!

I'll talk with them spring and see if they'll do that. We are new to the area up here and this is the first year of putting crops in on this land. I spent last summer clearing some fields getting ready. Nice land but has been neglected for several years. Farmers around tell me that they used to take oats off the fields that I am trying to get back into shape. Really looking forward to it. For now, I am waiting for a foot of snow to melt away......

Take care,

Ralph

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F-I-T

03-19-2007 09:44:08
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 Re: 1947 John Deere FB Grain Drill manual in reply to Glen in TX, 03-19-2007 09:07:22  
What really threw me off was that I knew they made an FB drill, but in my manual of manuals, DB 1112, from Deere in '91, they list FB-A, FB-B, and FB-C, but no FB. They don't list the OMM2355 manual anywhere in that book. That is the first item I have ever not found to be in the index. Perhaps it was an editing oversight.

I have the "B" Plain drill with grass seeder, and it's manual is OM-N159296.

Frank

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Glen in TX

03-19-2007 12:16:24
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 Re: 1947 John Deere FB Grain Drill manual in reply to F-I-T, 03-19-2007 09:44:08  
Some of those catalogs leave things out. I have DB1112 also but it's Feb.'94 and does list FB and others but I've found things missing in it before also. One of my old JD advertising booklets shows a early "F" fertilizer drill with tall steel wheels but catalog lists no manuals for it? You even have to pick thru 3 or 4 places at the online catalog to find the manual number that matches his and your manual.

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Ralph Wilks

03-19-2007 09:17:08
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 Re: 1947 John Deere FB Grain Drill manual in reply to Glen in TX, 03-19-2007 09:07:22  
That's the girl!!

Mine has the grass seed box on it also. Not quite that good of shape but close. I also got a 9' Brillion cultipacker with it. That is is need of a little work but is usable.

I couldn't find the tag on the side of the box. May be on the frame some where but haven't checked. We got back with it late Saturday night and it and the cultipacker are still on the trailer.

Thanks much!!

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Glen in TX

03-19-2007 12:22:36
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 Re: 1947 John Deere FB Grain Drill manual in reply to Ralph Wilks, 03-19-2007 09:17:08  
I've never tags on drill frames and early ones didn't seem to have any. Usually on one end of grain box and could have fell off or got knocked off too if had one once so look for holes or rivets where it could have been.



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F-I-T

03-19-2007 08:12:51
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 Re: 1947 John Deere FB Grain Drill manual in reply to Ralph Wilks, 03-19-2007 07:25:40  
Ralph:

I sure don't know my grain drills, but I have a catalog of the manuals JD offers, and while I see an FB-B, and an FB-A, I do not see just an FB. If you can clarify the model, I'm sure myself or someone else can get a number for the book, and then you can try to find a used one or order a new one from Deere at 800-522-7448.

Frank



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Ralph Wilks

03-19-2007 08:43:31
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 Re: 1947 John Deere FB Grain Drill manual in reply to F-I-T, 03-19-2007 08:12:51  
The book says B, DF-B, FB-B on it. No mention of an "A". The book on the cover(what's left of it),I am not sure if it's the entire numnber says "OM-N159296"
than there is a "Issue G2" but again I don't know if there is more.

Boy, I sure appreciate the help!!



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