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03-28-2004 07:51:55

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Does anyone out there agree with me that the most durable tractors in the world are the 3010/3020 diesels? 4010/4020's a close second? I know of at least 1 3010 with over 30,000 hrs and still going strong. A 4020 with 23,500 actual hrs. How about the 4320's. What an unbelievable machine they are!!

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03-28-2004 17:06:52

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 Re: MOST DURABLE TRACTOR 3010??? in reply to Axle, 03-28-2004 07:51:55  
NO WAY! I had a 3020. MY 720 and 730 could work circles around that thing. And lets not get started on fuel economy. My 720 starts no matter how cold it gets. Not that 3020! JD made a huge step backwards with that sereies. I have switched to Case tractors. They are by far more rugged, more dependable, easier starting, and much more fuel effiecent.

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03-28-2004 19:41:31

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 Re: Re: MOST DURABLE TRACTOR 3010??? in reply to jb, 03-28-2004 17:06:52  
2520, 3020, and 4020 were damn good tractors. I was a Deere mechanic most of my life and I can't say I ever came across any tractor that made the 30,000 hour mark with no tear downs - in fact - I've never seen one make it to 20,000 - without an engine job. Well cared for though, they were good for 10-15,000 (in my experience, anyway). As far as starting goes, I've seen 3020 and 4020 diesels that would start at zero F. with no help, and I've seen others that wouldn' start at 45 degrees F. without ether or a block heater. In fact, we had some brand new ones like that. So, they're not all the same. That sort of inconsistency persisted up through the 40 series of Deeres, but when the 50s came out, things got much better. My neighbor bought two 4020s, brand new, both at the same time from the same dealer back around 1970. He loved one, and hated the other. Finally got pissed and trading the bad 4020 off for an Allis-Deutz. He still has the good one. On the subject of fuel economy, that Deere series was pretty good when rated by horsepower hours per gallon - but not as quite as good as the 720D. In fact, two of most fuel efficient tractors ever made, at least when Nebraska testing was being done, was the Deere 720D and the Deere 1650 - the latter actually being Japanese as I recall (Yanmar?).

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03-28-2004 15:47:34

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 Re: MOST DURABLE TRACTOR 3010??? in reply to Axle, 03-28-2004 07:51:55  
John Deere didn't fool around thats for sure. First I have ever heard of a tractor with 30,000 hours on it and still going.

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