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4230 with MW Turbo at auction

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Will

10-21-2003 11:40:55
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There is a 4230 with an M&W Turbo coming up at auction next weekend. I went and took a look at it this AM. The tractor has 3500 hours on it, and the engine was overhauled by a local John Deere dealer 1000 hours ago. The owner (who is retiring) bought it new in 1976 said it used oil from day one so he finally had to have it rebuilt. The tractor has been shed kept, and is in exceptional condition. It has a quad-range trans, brand new BFG radials, JD cloth seat with air ride suspension, Unverfurth duals, and 10 front weights. A/C blows cold.

Just wondering what I should bid on it? Also curious about how many horses this tractor will produce? The owner said he had never checked it on a dyno, but told me that it will do anything his 4440 will.

Could the add on Turbo would have damaged the engine and caused it to burn oil?

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John Jenkins

10-22-2003 16:50:36
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 Re: 4230 with MW Turbo at auction in reply to Will, 10-21-2003 11:40:55  
This guy is trying to sell something that is not as good as advertised. A properly tuned, ballasted and operated 4440 is a sho-nuf hoss!



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Stuart

10-22-2003 09:16:30
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 Re: 4230 with MW Turbo at auction in reply to Will, 10-21-2003 11:40:55  
They are just a 404 on steriods. They were a peice of crap as far as power and durability I used to have one, it was gutless and couldnt hold together even after a new rebuild
Deere tried to get more power out of a 404 and it didnt work very good. Some guys had good luck with them but he ones i have seen are disasters. they dont take much abuse compared to a 466.
good luck



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mark

10-22-2003 16:57:38
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 Re: Re: 4230 with MW Turbo at auction in reply to Stuart, 10-22-2003 09:16:30  
will i have to disagree with u we have a 4230 for as long as i know and even before then it has something like 7000+ hrs on it we have had to have some tranny work i think the oil pump in the tranny it was but its never let us down we pull a 36 ft rod weeder with it up our hills and it doesent do it easy but it holds the rpm alot better then our case 2390 thats for sure ours also has no turbo id say ours doesent get worked easy and will be the last tractor around here all the others will be sold before it i figure they just keep on going mark

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ET

10-22-2003 05:23:45
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 Re: 4230 with MW Turbo at auction in reply to Will, 10-21-2003 11:40:55  
I put one of those M&W turbo kits on a 4230 years ago. With the turbo kit added and not touching the pump we didn't gain an horsepower at all. Then I turned the smoke screw about 1/6 of a turn and the tractor put out 128hp.



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MW turbo

10-21-2003 18:01:31
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 Re: 4230 with MW Turbo at auction in reply to Will, 10-21-2003 11:40:55  
He could have this tractor cranking out 140 horsepower easily.



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G-MAN

10-21-2003 13:57:01
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 Re: 4230 with MW Turbo at auction in reply to Will, 10-21-2003 11:40:55  
When did he add the turbo? The oil consumption problem probably stems from improper break-in, or something that was wrong with the engine from day one. It's hard to say just what caused it. However, for this thing to keep up with a 4440, which I find a little hard to believe, but oh well, it would have to be cranked up pretty hard. The 4230 has the 6404 engine (404 cubes), vs. the 6466 (466 cubes) of the 4440. There is no comparison in terms of low-end torque. I would be a little leery of any 4230 turboed and turned up like that. If you want a tractor to do the work of a 4440, my advice would be to buy a 4440.

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Ray

10-21-2003 13:05:26
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 Re: 4230 with MW Turbo at auction in reply to Will, 10-21-2003 11:40:55  
A 4230 is only about the same hp as a 4020,to compare it to a 4440 is ridiculous even with
a turbo that probably only adds 20hp.



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