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Replacing bad bearing on Vermeer 5400 Rebel baler

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n5oxp

06-06-2005 20:36:24
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Does anyone have any suggestions on how to get a bad bearing replaced on this baler? I chewed one up this evening about an hour before the rain hit. I have removed the screw and washer in the end of the shaft, removed the bolts that hold the retaining plate on, and removed the set screw from the black ring. Nothing seems to move that would indicate the bearing wants to come out.




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n5oxp

06-07-2005 19:28:47
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 Re: Replacing bad bearing on Vermeer 5400 Rebel ba in reply to n5oxp, 06-06-2005 20:36:24  
Got the old bearing out and the new one in. Took about 30 minutes thanks to the responses on this website.



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DavidA

06-07-2005 10:02:57
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 Re: Replacing bad bearing on Vermeer 5400 Rebel ba in reply to n5oxp, 06-06-2005 20:36:24  
I always cut the outer race off with my angle grinder, takes 2 cuts. Then I layed it flat against the inner race, usally 1 cut and I could pry or pull the rest off.

With a $30.00 angle grinder and a few 4" disk I have replace several bearings.



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n5oxp

06-07-2005 08:17:25
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 Re: Replacing bad bearing on Vermeer 5400 Rebel ba in reply to n5oxp, 06-06-2005 20:36:24  
Thanks for all this good information. I am going to give it a try later this evening. I will post my results.



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thurlow

06-07-2005 07:48:24
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 Re: Replacing bad bearing on Vermeer 5400 Rebel ba in reply to n5oxp, 06-06-2005 20:36:24  
I'm a trained professional; DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME!!!! A rap with a shop hammer (while wearing appropriate face shield) will fracture the outer part of the bearing allowing it to come apart, which may allow you access with a wheel puller, or make it easier to see what you're doing if you have to resort to a torch. Anyone who's ever run a Gleaner combine drags the torch out before beginning to replace a (same-style) bearing. It's been my experience that they don't "seize" as badly on a baler and will sometimes come off the shaft by working it back and forth and applying PB Blaster or something similar

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Redranch

06-07-2005 06:33:11
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 Re: Replacing bad bearing on Vermeer 5400 Rebel ba in reply to n5oxp, 06-06-2005 20:36:24  
Once you get the collar off they make a tool to get the bearing off instead of burning it off.



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Mike in Houston

06-07-2005 05:41:05
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 Re: Replacing bad bearing on Vermeer 5400 Rebel ba in reply to n5oxp, 06-06-2005 20:36:24  
Yep. Listen to Joe. It does matter which way that collar (locking ring) turns getting it off and back on. mee



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Joe(TX)

06-07-2005 05:03:53
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 Re: Replacing bad bearing on Vermeer 5400 Rebel ba in reply to n5oxp, 06-06-2005 20:36:24  
Lke John said, you have to get the eccentric collar that is on the shaft off. Use a punch to rotate it. I have had to cut a lot of bearings off with a torch that are rusted on. No way to put a puller on.
When you reinstall the collar on the new bearing, tighten it by rotating it in the direction the shaft rotates. It insures the bearing will remain locked.



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R. John Johnson

06-06-2005 21:23:31
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 Re: Replacing bad bearing on Vermeer 5400 Rebel ba in reply to n5oxp, 06-06-2005 20:36:24  
I am not familliar with that series of Vermeer, but the older ones used eccentric locking collar ball bearings. The collar had a counter bore machined off center. You placed the collar over the end of the bearing and used a hammer and punch to rotate the collar to lock the bearing to the shaft. There were holes drilled in the collar to provide purchase for the punch. When tight, a set screw prevented the collar from rotating and coming lose. The operator's manual on F series balers described the procedure along with illustrations.

If that is what you have, removing the set screw will not loosen up the bearing. In fact it will still be solid. You may also find that the bearing is still solid after removing the locking collar. The heat from the failure will have distorted the inner race of the bearing and it will need to be cut or ground off.

Good Luck!

John

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Hay Dr

06-07-2005 06:05:22
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 Re: Replacing bad bearing on Vermeer 5400 Rebel ba in reply to R. John Johnson, 06-06-2005 21:23:31  
John This process works in the Vermeer Rebel as well. Very good instructions! You are HIRED



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n5oxp

06-07-2005 05:01:17
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 Re: Replacing bad bearing on Vermeer 5400 Rebel ba in reply to R. John Johnson, 06-06-2005 21:23:31  
That sounds like the setup on this baler. There is another hole in the collar about a quarter turn from the set screw. Should I use punch to try and rotate the collar ofThe bottom of this hole is cone shaped. Are you saying that I should strike the punch sideways as if to rotate this collar like a nut on a bolt? Thanks



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paul

06-07-2005 07:31:50
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 Re: Replacing bad bearing on Vermeer 5400 Rebel ba in reply to n5oxp, 06-07-2005 05:01:17  
Yup. The collar & the bearing side have concentric lips on them, & do a 'cam-lock' on the shaft.

You can find these bearings at a NAPA or other type of store near you if dealer is far away or high priced. Take old one or numbers from it along.

Be sure to lock down the new bearing, I believe it is best to spin the new collar in the direction of shaft rotation for locking?

A punch & hammer oare the tools to use.

--->Paul

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