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New Idea 279 Cut/conditioner - will new blades ma

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Nellie

06-06-2004 16:26:14
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I bought a 9 ft New Idea Cut/ditioner with the blades worn out, no question. I only have about 5 acreas of mixed grass to cut. I tried it out and my D17 was way over matched. I was planning on replacing all 40 blades to keep the balance but only cut a 6-7 ft swath after the first pass around the field. My question is will new blades make it cut easier, requiring less HP, enough to be able to use my D17 or Ford 4000. Years ago I had a 7 ft cut/ditioner with new blades and was able to cut the fields with the same tractor. Right now I have very little invested in the 279 but new blades will cost over $400. I would like some ideas if new blades will be enough to make it simi usable or is it just too much for my HP range.

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11700

07-17-2006 18:43:12
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 Re: New Idea 279 Cut/conditioner - will new blades in reply to Nellie, 06-06-2004 16:26:14  
I talked to an exdealer about a nine ft 297 and he recommened at least a 70 horse tractor.



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Farmer Tom

06-07-2004 13:20:49
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 Re: New Idea 279 Cut/conditioner - will new blades in reply to Nellie, 06-06-2004 16:26:14  
I have a NI279 Cut-ditioner too. It makes my JD3020 gasser do some talking, but behind the 1850 Oliver you just know you are dragging something around. I think the NI279 owners manual talks about sharpening the flails/knives. So, my question is, are the flails/knives worn back so much a touch with a hand grinder wouldn't work? I don't think they were intended to have a 'butcher knife sharp' edge as I recall in the owners manual.

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Nellie

06-07-2004 13:57:31
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 Re: Re: New Idea 279 Cut/conditioner - will new bl in reply to Farmer Tom, 06-07-2004 13:20:49  
Tom, There is no sharpening to these. They are suppose be shapped like a L. The blade/cutter is is worn right to the bend. They are worn and now resemble an I not a L. If it was a 7ft cut I would reblade it. Looks like it will be going to the spring consignment sale. I am not buying a bigger tractor.



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Tom from Ontario

06-07-2004 07:28:16
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 Re: New Idea 279 Cut/conditioner - will new blades in reply to Nellie, 06-06-2004 16:26:14  
We have a 7 foot model of this that we run with a D17 and it's just enough power. Cutting at night the exhaust is carrying a flame about 8 inches high. Good luck.



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Don-WI

06-06-2004 19:45:23
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 Re: New Idea 279 Cut/conditioner - will new blades in reply to Nellie, 06-06-2004 16:26:14  
Check out a new Sickle instead of replacing them all. But if it's still cutting fine on worn sections I wouldn't bother replacing them.
Donovan from Wisconsin



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Tim(nj)

06-06-2004 20:08:56
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 Re: Re: New Idea 279 Cut/conditioner - will new bl in reply to Don-WI, 06-06-2004 19:45:23  
A Cut/Ditioner is a flail-type mower, no sickle sections involved.



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Don-Wi

06-06-2004 20:24:23
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 Re: Re: Re: New Idea 279 Cut/conditioner - will ne in reply to Tim(nj), 06-06-2004 20:08:56  
My bad. I Have a NI 291, couldn't remember if the side said mow-ditioner or cut-ditioner. guess it says mow-ditioner. Just brought it out for the 1st time this year tonight and snapped the pitman due to a 1/2 @ss repair by the last owner. We have an Identical Ford 535 in back that the frame ripped in 1/2 a while back that we use for parts.
Donvan from Wisconsin



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PaMike

06-06-2004 18:57:28
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 Re: New Idea 279 Cut/conditioner - will new blades in reply to Nellie, 06-06-2004 16:26:14  
Those mowers take a ton of HP, but are durable and take almost no maintence. I dont know the horsepower of a D17 but I know with my thick grass I wouldnt want to pull it with anything less than about 45 HP. We pulled it with a very worn 656 Hydro and the mower is too much.



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Sid

06-06-2004 16:48:36
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 Re: New Idea 279 Cut/conditioner - will new blades in reply to Nellie, 06-06-2004 16:26:14  
According to people I have asked around here the D17 does not have enough HP.



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