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How much disk

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Doug Rogers

04-07-2003 07:25:11
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I have a 45 horse Zetor tractor with 4 wheel drive. There is an auction this weekend with a 12 foot transport disk that I wouldn't mind having. I don't have weights or fluid in tires. Will my tractor pull it or is this just too much disk? Thanks.




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Leroy

04-13-2003 09:20:12
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 Re: How much disk in reply to Doug Rogers, 04-07-2003 07:25:11  
That Zetor would be rated at engine HP that is more than PTO HP that is more than Drawbar HP, you have a tractor that is compairable with a NAA ford and the rear tires would be small than those of the Ford so you with the 4 wheel drive would have about the same traction as the Ford and with less than 4000 lb., even if you would put on duals you will have trouble pulling anything larger than a 7 on a side tandem with a 9' rear gang cutting width and a 6 on a side would be a much better fit

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Hugh MacKay

04-13-2003 19:44:51
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 Re: Re: How much disk in reply to Leroy, 04-13-2003 09:20:12  
Leroy: What in H%^& are you talking about.



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Don-WI

04-08-2003 20:38:05
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 Re: How much disk in reply to Doug Rogers, 04-07-2003 07:25:11  
I think I'd rather get a good 8 ft disk instead of buying a 12 ft and finding out you can't pull it. If nothing else you can get bigger in a little while, why rush it right away?
Donovan from Wisconsin



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Don-WI

04-08-2003 20:37:51
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 Re: How much disk in reply to Doug Rogers, 04-07-2003 07:25:11  
I think I'd rather get a good 8 ft disk instead of buying a 12 ft and finding out you can't pull it. If nothing else you can get bigger in a little while, why rush it right away?
Donovan from Wisconsin



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JMS/MN

04-07-2003 21:00:00
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 Re: How much disk in reply to Doug Rogers, 04-07-2003 07:25:11  
45 hp (drawbar?) with four wheel drive should certainly handle a ten foot disc. Amazingly, someone with an eight footer for sale says your tractor is just the right size for an eight footer. Another says to buy the bigger one and cut it off. Why not just remove a few discs, rather than cut the shafts and frame to match the current hp you have available? Then, if you later buy a bigger tractor, you can reinstall the parts and use the same disc.

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Jay Routon

04-08-2003 19:05:31
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 Re: Re: How much disk in reply to JMS/MN, 04-07-2003 21:00:00  
You know I don't really care if I sell this disk or not. But you farm or are you weekend warriors? Since when does a 45 Hp tractor pull a 10 or 12 foot disc? And most likely his tractor is not 45 drawbar Hp either it is probably engine or pto hp. And thus the drawbar hp is not going to be enough for anything larger than an 8 footer. I was just putting in my 2 cents from experience and not what I assume will work. It is going to take wieght to pull a larger disk. If he does not have ballast in the tires he will spin 4 wheel drive or not. This tractor does not weigh enough for 12 feet so why get one and work on it to make it where you might can use it. Buy what you need now and if you get a bigger tractor later than get a bigger disk. They sell them every day. Like I said in my other post I pull a light IH 37 with 16 inch blades that is 13'. I pull it with a 3010 with a cab and fluid in the tires. This means that my tractor is about 8000lbs. A zetor of this hp without ballast and wieghts will be about 4500 or maybe 5000lbs. I also pull a 16' IH480 that has 20" blades with a 2675 MF that is 105 hp. And this thing is about 15,000lbs with the loader and ballast. And I would not want to pull anything any bigger with this one. The bigest factor in machine breakdowns is poor upkeep. And the second is trying to pull something that your tractor is too small for. Since there have been several answer to your question and noone seems to agree, you should call a local dealer and ask what they would recommend.

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Jay Routon

04-07-2003 19:27:46
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 Re: How much disk in reply to Doug Rogers, 04-07-2003 07:25:11  
Like some others said, any 12' disk that can be pulled by 45hp is not worth pulling home. I have an old 13' IH 37 and it is all a 60hp JD 3010 wants in soft ground. You should look for a good 8' tandem wheel disk for this tractor. Were are you located? I have a good little Tufline 8' wheel disk that I will part with. If you know the weight of a disk, you can use this formula to figure if your tractor will pull it. 44 to 48 pounds of disk per drawbar HP at 5 mph.

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thurlow

04-07-2003 11:46:18
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 Re: How much disk in reply to Doug Rogers, 04-07-2003 07:25:11  
Lots of differences in 12 ft disks; some a 45 horse tractor with 4-wheel drive might pull, but can't imagine it pulling any "decent" disk. Got any farmer friends or someone with experience that could look at the disk for you??? Generally speaking (again, VERY broad range, here) I'd look for a 8 - 10 foot disk for a 45 horse tractor.



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paul

04-07-2003 12:42:45
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 Re: Re: How much disk in reply to thurlow, 04-07-2003 11:46:18  
I would kind of agree with this.

That tractor will probably pull a 12' just fine in cornstalks, dry ground. On the other hand, in soft spring ground it might be more than you want.

There is a great deal of difference in disks, and some very different tasks we ask of them.

It would 'probably' pull a regular 12', but there are conditions (soil & precip) and heavy-built 12' disks that would sometimes be too much for your tractor.

How's that for a totally unhelpful reply? :)

--->Paul

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Debert

04-07-2003 08:13:27
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 Re: How much disk in reply to Doug Rogers, 04-07-2003 07:25:11  
Should handle 12 footer just fine.



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Hugh MacKay

04-07-2003 11:38:17
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 Re: Re: How much disk in reply to Debert, 04-07-2003 08:13:27  
Any 12 foot disc that a 45 horse power tractor will pull is not worth the fuel it takes to pull it home suposing it is only 2 miles away. A good working 12 foot disc will give 60 hp tractors all they want. I have seen 12 discs stop a 60 hp tractor.



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mike in mn

04-16-2003 21:57:06
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 Re: Re: Re: How much disk in reply to Hugh MacKay, 04-07-2003 11:38:17  
A 12ft disc will stop an 80hp tractor if its not set right.



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Hugh MacKay

04-17-2003 03:04:55
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 Re: Re: Re: Re: How much disk in reply to mike in mn, 04-16-2003 21:57:06  
Nothing seems to stop an idiot.



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Hugh MacKay

04-07-2003 07:58:00
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 Re: How much disk in reply to Doug Rogers, 04-07-2003 07:25:11  
Doug: Something to remember, if disc is in good condition, and the price is right you can always drop 1 disc off each gang until you get it right. Then cut the arbor bolts and frame to suit. You will have 4, 8, 12 or 16 spare discs in case of breakage. Your 45 hp tractor should handle 32 or 36 good 16" blades. Biggest part of whole process is threading shortened arbor bolts. You will get a heavier frame disc that way.

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