mikewood869
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How fast can you tow a haybine on the road if you change the tires to car tires? In the book it says 25 mph. We would be greasing the wheel bearings probably ever 20 miles.
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shaun wallace
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Years ago I pulled one from Abilene Tx to Presido Tx. Put LT tires and packed bearings, pulled 45-50 mph. Changed back to implement wheels and tires when got there.
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mikewood869
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Thank you
I forgot to say this out be 110 miles through ct and ma.
I forgot to say this out be 110 miles through ct and ma.
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mikewood869
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I do know that, the trip is going to be around 3 or 4 hours coming home.
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mikewood869
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Dumb question, even with signals (lights)?
Towing speed MAY be dependent upon how nicely it trails as speed increases.
NO need to overgrease the spindle bearings, before all the modern high failure rate unitized wheel bearings, cars and tucks would go a half a million miles or more without a bearing re-pack, and your hubs and bearings are similar.
I pulled this 650 miles at 45 mph I took a infared
thermometer with and checked the bearings and
tires for heat the first 30 miles hubs never got even
warm to the touch went 300 miles the first day and
ran out of daylight took most of the next day to get
home and still made it right at dark. On equipment
that intend to road a lot of it already doesn?t have
greasable hubs I drill and tap the dust cap for a zerk
then before a long trip I grease until grease comes
out of the dust seal wipe the excess off and hit the
road never had an issue doing it that way . Forty
and fifty mile one way trips are pretty common for
most of my implements that are on wheels .
This little disk goes ok behind a truck at about 45
you have to take a come along and hook ok one
side of the front gang an the run it over to the hitch
to take the slack out of it . I put 14 ply trailer tires on
it and went one size bigger because I wanted a little
more flotation in the field it had really skinny tires on
it and with the harrows added weight it was a little
to much for the 225 14 car tires I had on it they
eventually exploded just while the disk was parked
in the yard
thermometer with and checked the bearings and
tires for heat the first 30 miles hubs never got even
warm to the touch went 300 miles the first day and
ran out of daylight took most of the next day to get
home and still made it right at dark. On equipment
that intend to road a lot of it already doesn?t have
greasable hubs I drill and tap the dust cap for a zerk
then before a long trip I grease until grease comes
out of the dust seal wipe the excess off and hit the
road never had an issue doing it that way . Forty
and fifty mile one way trips are pretty common for
most of my implements that are on wheels .
This little disk goes ok behind a truck at about 45
you have to take a come along and hook ok one
side of the front gang an the run it over to the hitch
to take the slack out of it . I put 14 ply trailer tires on
it and went one size bigger because I wanted a little
more flotation in the field it had really skinny tires on
it and with the harrows added weight it was a little
to much for the 225 14 car tires I had on it they
eventually exploded just while the disk was parked
in the yard
Avoid an interstate for sure! You aren?t welcome on those. 4 lane state highways are allowed.
You have an issue; implements of husbandry going under 30mph with a slow moving emblem are good.
Going over 35 mph you often should -not- have the slow moving emblem displayed; but then they figure you lose the farm exemption and get picky on over width and
so forth. Look at the state laws on this you are in..... Out of state plates might make you more of a target for this.
I?d still do it, and I?d run 45-50 assuming it doesnt wobble. But I?m just pointing out some things to have in mind.
Wobbly hitches and loose linkages and really bad are short wheel bases and negative tongue weights really make things wobble. An offset hitch can cause problems
but usually not, just harder to fit down the lane or avoid mailboxes. Hopefully it has a good transport position that gets you closer to centered.
I?ve brought a 490 disk home 50 miles, and a new idea picker home 70 miles, tires that were on them and went 45+ no problems.
I brought a 14 foot 45 field cultivator home 100 miles, the add on harrow made it negative tongue weight that was miserable and on a state highway no less. Then a tire
blew 20 miles from home.
Just brought a Glencoe soil saver home this fall, 120 miles, hooked on at the consignment and took off, pulled great was 45 once I got my bearings, that?s kind of a
heavy unit to bounce down the road but went very well.
Worst was a JD old disk with negative tongue weight, short wheelbase, and very sloppy hitch. It was only 12 miles from home, but oh my. If I got over 11 miles an hour
everything shook back and forth terrible. The worst drive of my life.
I try to find good county roads, but I live at a crossroads of 2 major heavily traveled 2 lane state highways, so often end up fighting its the semis on these trips as the
best shortest route.....
Paul
You have an issue; implements of husbandry going under 30mph with a slow moving emblem are good.
Going over 35 mph you often should -not- have the slow moving emblem displayed; but then they figure you lose the farm exemption and get picky on over width and
so forth. Look at the state laws on this you are in..... Out of state plates might make you more of a target for this.
I?d still do it, and I?d run 45-50 assuming it doesnt wobble. But I?m just pointing out some things to have in mind.
Wobbly hitches and loose linkages and really bad are short wheel bases and negative tongue weights really make things wobble. An offset hitch can cause problems
but usually not, just harder to fit down the lane or avoid mailboxes. Hopefully it has a good transport position that gets you closer to centered.
I?ve brought a 490 disk home 50 miles, and a new idea picker home 70 miles, tires that were on them and went 45+ no problems.
I brought a 14 foot 45 field cultivator home 100 miles, the add on harrow made it negative tongue weight that was miserable and on a state highway no less. Then a tire
blew 20 miles from home.
Just brought a Glencoe soil saver home this fall, 120 miles, hooked on at the consignment and took off, pulled great was 45 once I got my bearings, that?s kind of a
heavy unit to bounce down the road but went very well.
Worst was a JD old disk with negative tongue weight, short wheelbase, and very sloppy hitch. It was only 12 miles from home, but oh my. If I got over 11 miles an hour
everything shook back and forth terrible. The worst drive of my life.
I try to find good county roads, but I live at a crossroads of 2 major heavily traveled 2 lane state highways, so often end up fighting its the semis on these trips as the
best shortest route.....
Paul
caterpillar guy
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Like said tires are not the problem though I would take a couple of spares just in case you ran over some thing that ruined on. If you worried about the bearings I would just put some 90 wt in the cap then tap back in place. Will keep the bearing oiled and trucks have been using it for years. No it will not thin it to run out the seal either. Road conditions would dictate the speed to me and how it handles.
Traditional Farmer
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About tires, carry 2 good spares no matter how good the ones on the machine looks,the best looking tire is usually the one that blows out.
rustyfarmall
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Depends entirely on the smoothness of the road. I've towed such things on roads rough enough to limit the speed to less than 20 mph. Any faster and the machine started bouncing violently.
RogerinIowa
Member
Mailboxes may be your issue as haybines
are usually offset to the right.
are usually offset to the right.
tomstractorsandtoys
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Speed depends on how it pulls and road condition. Take a chain and load binder along. Hook on the outside of the cutterbar or the knock down bar on the reel on the off side and run the chain up to your hitch close to your hitch pin. Put a load binder on it to take all the slop out and it will pull great. We used to do this when pulling New Idea corn pickers and Allis Chalmers 600 notill planters. Works on disk and any implement with a loose tongue. You can also use a come-a-long instead of a chain. Dad added an extra hitch to his pickup offset to the drivers side for pulling haybines,balers and choppers. Tom
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mikewood869
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The roads didn't seem too bad (around here its pot hole city or patch town depending on what part of town). Mail boxes, tel poles, and side walks are going to be fun. I'm planing on bring spare tires. I'm going to look up on New Holland parts to see what compatible there is with a NH 477 axle and stuff. I think I might be taking Route 66, 82, 20 home and more Routes. Hopefully there are no narrow spots.
Mike(NEOhio)
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- Newbury, Ohio
I've pulled two 1207s home about 30 miles each time. They have the ball/socket for the equal angle hitch and I used a 1" bolt in the hole in the step bumper. I could do 40 on good road. No sway problem but the 1207 doesn't center up in the transport position. I had to keep the right tire right at the edge of the pavement and run close to the center lines.
You don't need to keep greasing the wheel bearings. They're an automotive type bearing like any trailer has. We used to pull a lot of equipment home from the sale yard in Archbold Ohio,150 miles away. We've hauled balers,choppers,haybines,pull type combines,even a few corn pickers. We took them right up US 127 and I 94 around Jackson. Things will haul right along 55 miles an hour without a problem. The only issue you have to worry about is having enough weight and braking power in whatever you're towing it with.
Paul - the FEDERAL LAWS governing use of the SMV emblem for agricultural equipment on state and Federal highways says the SMV emblem should be displayed at speeds 25 mph and lower. If towing at speeds over 25 mph the SMV should NOT be displayed. There doesn't appear to be ANY leeway in the 25 mph speed.
This info is just a quick Internet search away. I'd take your smart phone, tablet, etc with you, if some law enforcement official stops you, you can search on-line and show him/her the laws pertaining to pulling farm equipment on highways.
This info is just a quick Internet search away. I'd take your smart phone, tablet, etc with you, if some law enforcement official stops you, you can search on-line and show him/her the laws pertaining to pulling farm equipment on highways.
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mikewood869
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I m thinking that put a pair of 2008 gmc 1500 6 lugs on on the mower, or I ll just rob them from the hay wagon, but then I would need new tires.
MARK ROBKE
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I always seen the sign say, 'no farm implements'. Implement tires are my concern-they only rated for 25mph. I would worry about blowout from overspeed more than anything. Mark.
I bought my bale wagon and 1209 swather and pulled them about 90 miles.. the bale wagon went right behind my truck so
no problem there and I went about 50 mph..
Swather I pulled about 40 ish.. BUT I had my dad drive his truck down with me and he ran about 1/2 mile aahead and
would tell me when a vehicle was coming so I could pull to the side.. If he said it was clear I ran the whole road..
As said mailboxes could be a problem but where I towed they had shoulders so no big deal.
Unless the tires are really checked and cracked wouldnt worry bout them..
no problem there and I went about 50 mph..
Swather I pulled about 40 ish.. BUT I had my dad drive his truck down with me and he ran about 1/2 mile aahead and
would tell me when a vehicle was coming so I could pull to the side.. If he said it was clear I ran the whole road..
As said mailboxes could be a problem but where I towed they had shoulders so no big deal.
Unless the tires are really checked and cracked wouldnt worry bout them..
randy hall
Member
pulled a 488 haybine 90 miles home this spring. Never got much over 60mph. The only place that would be bad is a suburban area with mailboxes close to the road and lots of oncoming traffic.
Determined
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Hauled one home behind a tractor this spring just over 60 miles.
Said and done in less than 4 hours on the tires it came with.
Said and done in less than 4 hours on the tires it came with.
I?m too lazy to search it now, but I read a fairly new law in Minnesota where going over 30mph was ok in this state if it was a one time transport type of deal.
I?d look closer if it mattered to me this week.
And heck 2 different officers will interpret the laws two different ways, so I try to talk in generalities and folk need to look up thief own situation as they umderstand it to be......
Paul
I?d look closer if it mattered to me this week.
And heck 2 different officers will interpret the laws two different ways, so I try to talk in generalities and folk need to look up thief own situation as they umderstand it to be......
Paul
Ha. Even tho I?m lazy today, I ended up finding it quickly today....
Here is the SMV law for Minnesota.
You can tow an empty Ag deal faster than 30mph without removing the sign.
I do know this was illegal a few years ago, it changed recently.
Paul
Minnesota SMV
Here is the SMV law for Minnesota.
You can tow an empty Ag deal faster than 30mph without removing the sign.
I do know this was illegal a few years ago, it changed recently.
Paul
Minnesota SMV
When I drove my tractor home this summer, 120 miles, I got a lot of ?wasn?t that boring?? Questions.
Well, it was 7 hour drive and every mile looked different. When I chisel plowed this fall, I ran it 10 hours one day, back and forth on the same patch of dirt all day. The 7
hour drive was pretty interesting by comparison....
Well, it was 7 hour drive and every mile looked different. When I chisel plowed this fall, I ran it 10 hours one day, back and forth on the same patch of dirt all day. The 7
hour drive was pretty interesting by comparison....
showcrop
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The rule about Not towing farm equipment on interstates is strictly YTDOT. real DOT will tell you to go on the interstate except during high congestion times. I needed to pull a 9ft MOCO for 130 miles so I called the state DOT for an over-width permit. They took all my info and then told me my route over the phone. They also gave me other pertinent info. The YTDOT will tell you no because they just see the signs at the entry ramps and think that they know the whole story. YT is a very bad place to ask for hauling information because everyone is an expert without ever glancing at the rule book.
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mikewood869
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I ended up buying a New Holland 489 haybine (serial # 661017) and we got lucky that we didn't have to tow it. We ended up getting it onto a trailer. This one looks a lot better than the one I posted a few months ago. The ride was fun coming home. We used the Ford 6610 and the Ford 4500 to get it off.
Northvale PA
Member
I pulled a 469 about 25 Miles. The axle cracked thru on a pot hole about 1 mile from my house. Luckily
for me I was next to a corn field so I parked it and repaired and completed the trip the next day. You
might consider buying an axle for a spare. Seriously.
for me I was next to a corn field so I parked it and repaired and completed the trip the next day. You
might consider buying an axle for a spare. Seriously.
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