NH 276 Cam track and tine bar

dhermesc

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Started taking the cam rack apart to get to the "rice tooth". Ever just want to find a previous owner and beat the crap out of him?

We started taking it apart an noticed several bolts missing and set screws that hold the rollers in place missing. We are extremely lucky the rice tooth broke as the entire feeding system was about to self
destruct with all the missing/undersized bolts. The tine bar is damaged from undersized bolts being used to connect it to the chain. This has been the case on everything the previous owner has worked on -
put together wrong and usually without the correct bolts. The PTO and pickup were previous areas I worked on that he had "messed" with and required many new parts to replace his cobbled up mess that barely
worked. Really hoping the local salvage yard has the entire setup like they claimed they would. I'm up to $600+ in parts if I have to order from Messick's.
 
The feeder bar self-destructing is what ended the life of our 276. (for us, anyway... I think the dealer fixed it and sold it) It was going to be over $1000 in parts... and that was 25 years ago.

Usually it's the engineer who made things impossible to work on, who I want to beat.
 
(quoted from post at 07:05:41 07/27/18) Started taking the cam rack apart to get to the "rice tooth". Ever just want to find a previous owner and beat the crap out of him?

We started taking it apart an noticed several bolts missing and set screws that hold the rollers in place missing. We are extremely lucky the rice tooth broke as the entire feeding system was about to self
destruct with all the missing/undersized bolts. The tine bar is damaged from undersized bolts being used to connect it to the chain. This has been the case on everything the previous owner has worked on -
put together wrong and usually without the correct bolts. The PTO and pickup were previous areas I worked on that he had "messed" with and required many new parts to replace his cobbled up mess that barely
worked. Really hoping the local salvage yard has the entire setup like they claimed they would. I'm up to $600+ in parts if I have to order from Messick's.

Good morning. I feel your pain. I went to Messicks and priced parts for my tine bar...
The bar itself (without the parts inside) was 292
There were two "stops"...one was 52 bucks, the other 158
I also needed the two front fingers at 34 bucks each

I was up to about 600 just for those parts.

I called Junior Fry down in PA
570-546-3968

I asked about a salvage one, but, as I had suspected; this was a popular salvage item. None left.

But, they had the entire assembly (bar, teeth and all) for 685 bucks.

Ordered mine yesterday.

Now...I don't have it in hand. I still have some questions as to how complete the assembly is (since Messicks wanted 1400 for an assembly) and they made it sound as though it might be slightly different...but it will fit a 276.

If you go this route, make sure you ask enough questions that you're satisfied that you're getting what you need.

I think I'm getting the right part, but I don't have it in hand to verify.

Good luck.
 
Actually this thing comes apart pretty easy - my 16 year old had it apart in less than hour - which made me a little nervous since I didn't see it come apart and I'll probably be putting it together.
 
Once the side panel is off, access is fairly easy and disassembly fairly straight forward. I think you can straighten the tracks, they do not have to be perfect to work. I'd sure put new track rollers in it while it is apart. I think the rice tooth problem on mine was cause by over reving the baler by a hired hand while I was off for surgery.

Unfortunatly almost every piece of used equipment I have ever purchased has been screwed up by the previous owner, SAE nuts on metric bolts, too many bad welds, wrong part at the wrong place, important shields thrown away. Makes you wonder about the intellect of the folks we are supposed to respect....ourselves. If they have messed it up to the point they can't fix it ...they take it to the auction.
 
The tracks are fine - another 20 minutes (possibly 20 seconds) of operation though and the whole rotating mass would have been a nothing but scrap metal. As it is I only need about 3-4 parts - but its still going to run well over $600.
 
It seems like everything I work on I have to redo someones work. I just bought a 492 haybine at auction, like new paint, and I think the man tried to grade his road with it. I would just like to know exactly what he was trying to run through it, he had the slip clutch tightened down all the way.
 
(quoted from post at 15:30:18 07/27/18) The tracks are fine - another 20 minutes (possibly 20 seconds) of operation though and the whole rotating mass would have been a nothing but scrap metal. As it is I only need about 3-4 parts - but its still going to run well over $600.

My tine bar assembly arrived yesterday from Fry's Machinery.

It's the correct one for the 276, and it's complete. It's the bar, the front bracket with both aluminum teeth and the rice tooth with cam follower bearings in the back.

Looking at the new assembly, I realize that the one in my baler was missing the "stop" that would prevent the rice tine from completely flipping over.

I don't know if that was part of why my main drive chain broke, or part of the issue why I was always having a little trouble with even packing of the bales?????

Not sure... but anyway.... The whole shebang from Fry's cost us 716 dollars after shipping.
 

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