Dump Hay Rakes

C.Amick

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What time period were dump hay rakes manufactured? As I was walking by mine this evening, I was thinking it may be 100 years old.
 
I thought they had quit making dump rakes, but according to their website they are still building them. I still own a 42 footer, although it is badly worn. Many many acres of use.
 
They were made around the late 1850s onward. They didn't gain popularity until the war tho. It was when it was women and kids and old folks who were left on the farm who had to get the hay in that they became popular. Returning crippled vets also liked them. I had an Oliver when I was a kid. I have a IHC now, but am going to try to trade it for another local IHC, as mine dosnt have the rake off bars, I didn't realize that when I bought it. I was raking up some straw and I found id have to lock the teeth up, and drive my arm down between the teeth all along the rake to get the bunched straw off of the teeth. THAT was a pain.
 
I have never seen first hand a rope trip dump rake. Ive seen vids of them in Europe and England. My dad said that when movable bailers came in, they found that windrows made with a dump rake didn't go into the bailer as well as windrows made with a side delivery rake. As bailers gained more and more acceptance, and it was found and shown that dump rakes didn't work as well as side rakes, there future was doomed. my folks bailed their first hay around 1951. Dad didn't own a hay rake until the 70s. I had a 3 bar JD rake in the 70s also. Im 70 now had have dads 4 bar JD steel wheel rake.
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Heres some pics of my IHC dump rake. youll notice I have the front end of the tongue as high as it would be if it was pulled by horses. That's important in getting the teeth all the way to the ground without any skipping up and down. Also notice, as I said in my earlier posting the straight bars used to rake off the hay from the teeth are missing.
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They were called sweep rakes by IHC. The McCormick-Deering hay rake (Formerly McCormick 1989 and since). The hand dump and self dump were both made 09-12 and the new self dump 11-12. The McCormick-Deering New Ideal Hay Rake (formerly McCormick-Derring) 1910-1925 and made in 6.5 to 12' models. These figures are right out of the master parts book for hay machines. I don't have any listings for later. The international side delievery 2-bar wood frame built 1893-1910, 3 bar wood frame 1905-1912, 3 bar steel frame 1910-1921. Then the McCormick-Deering 3 bar side rake-tedder was first built in 1916 and continued in several versions to 1960. The 4 bar enclosed gear tractor side delievery rake known to start as McCormick-Deering and later just as McCormick was first built in 1940 and continued untill 1958. They has a 3 bar enclosed gear starting in 39 but droped about WWII time. Sears had the sweep rake for their garden tractor up ito the 50's. I dont have that information on the sweep rakes from Deere But the Deere side delievery started as Dain in about the early 20's and later became the Deere-Dain and later just the Deere that later became the 594 or 594LW. Do not have those years handy.
DO NOT CONFUSE NEW IDEAL WITH NEW IDEA as a lot seem to do.
 
The first dump or sweep rake was made by Hubor of Marion, Ohio and was all wood with two sets of teeth made in a roll over patern that when it would dump it would just roll over and the other set of teeth started working. Have year for that but not handy.
 
Wow, that's a lot of information. Thanks. Is there a casting number somewhere on the rake that would tell me if it is a McCormick or what brand it might be?
 
I do not know if any of the castings had parts numbers molded in or not and the books don't tell me that, I do not know if they were like I heard the tedders were and that is they were all made by same company and just painted one color for McCormick and a different color for Deere and still a different color for any other company that wanterd to sell them under their own brand.
 

I can remember the neighbor kids raking scatterings with a rope actuated dump rake behind an 8N in the early sixties. They discontinued the practice by 1964.
 
LEROY can you find a year on that. I have reproduction advertisments of farm machinery and would recognize the name Huber instantly. I don't find a later known name LIKE Huber in any of the advertisments.
 
I know they made tractors from 30's to 50's, Lots of steem traction engines, trashing machines, combines, think some plows. and other machinery. They have a new muesuem in Marion Ohio. Built a lot of road machinery into the 60's.
 

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