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Now for my baler problem

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Mike(NEOhio)

07-10-2018 17:07:39




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Started baling yesterday and couldn't get more that two in a row without missing a tie. Always the left side and the knot was hung up in the bill. The twine on that side was a new bundle but when pulled out it would form tight kinks every couple of feet and pulled really hard at the knotter. Finally gave up, put it in the shed and raised both knotters up. The left one is pretty worn but always worked OK but I decided I should replace it. Picture of the brass roller on the end of the tongue. But before I do I'll try another bundle. This morning it worked perfectly and we baled all afternoon and it missed one knot on the other side.
Anybody ever get a bad bundle lie this? It seemed to be twisted real tight and the twine was very hard. When I pull it out off the core it starts twisting up in kinks on it's own.

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Northvale PA

07-15-2018 19:28:09




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 Re: Now for my baler problem in reply to Mike(NEOhio), 07-10-2018 17:07:39  
Yes, when the twine kinks, that bale is upside down. Flip it over. Also, a roller with a flat spot worn on it won’t roll correctly and will miss ties. Replace those. Pretty cheap to do so.



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Mike(NEOhio)

07-11-2018 17:18:23




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 Re: Now for my baler problem in reply to Mike(NEOhio), 07-10-2018 17:07:39  
OK, I checked the kinky bundle and I had it in right but it seems to feed better the other way. I think the tail end was placed wrong. I'll find out next baling day. New bill hook is ordered.



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riveroadrat

07-11-2018 09:17:57




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 Re: Now for my baler problem in reply to Mike(NEOhio), 07-10-2018 17:07:39  
Looks like you need a new billhook or roller. Check the brass roller on the knife arm. If you let them sit outside in rain thay will rust tight and wear a flat spot on the roller. you can flip them if you have a welder or if they have the old style with the screw that holds the roller on. Keep them oiled.



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Leroy

07-11-2018 08:03:26




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 Re: Now for my baler problem in reply to Mike(NEOhio), 07-10-2018 17:07:39  
Not a new problem. Had that 40 years ago.



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Mike(NEOhio)

07-10-2018 20:05:33




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 Re: Now for my baler problem in reply to Mike(NEOhio), 07-10-2018 17:07:39  
Pretty sure I had it in right because I tied the tail end to the next one, unless the tail came out the wrong end. But I will check it tomorrow.



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Cory Schmidt

07-10-2018 19:48:04




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 Re: Now for my baler problem in reply to Mike(NEOhio), 07-10-2018 17:07:39  
What kind of baler? We have a ih47 if the hay isn't right it shoots out junk bales. put it a way for the day come back the next never change twine(or anything else) and all runs well the hay is just a tad drier that's the only difference. If hay conditions are the same try varying your throttle some, our baler works best just a slowed tad below what is set 540 PTO RPM.

Oh yeah and yes we do run into a bad roll once in a while. Just this last weekend we were just about to end of load and baler started spitting garbage on one side, checked twine just switched...some how a lighter ball made its way into the baler. switched that out first few bales were junk till the light string left in the baler was used out then worked fine.

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lastcowboy32

07-10-2018 19:01:37




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 Re: Now for my baler problem in reply to Mike(NEOhio), 07-10-2018 17:07:39  
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My brother has used sisal since...well..forever.

Anyway, a few years back, he was having a similar issue with his twine. Since he buys it all before the season; he couldn't very well just switch to another brand. What would he do with the other 50 bales of twine that he still had?
He got in the habit of pulling a bunch of twine out of each roll and discarding it. The twine seemed to pull hard at first; and he would just keep pulling it out of the roll; until it pulled easy.

Sometimes it would be hardly any twine at all. Sometimes he would discard about forty feet of it.

Worked for him.

I have gotten into the habit of always testing my twine too; but I've yet to find a bale (although I don't go through as many as him...and I use poly) that pulls hard out of the center.

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Charlie M

07-10-2018 18:49:45




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 Re: Now for my baler problem in reply to Mike(NEOhio), 07-10-2018 17:07:39  
I had a ball one time where the center looked like mice had lived in it for a year. It was new and unopened so the mess had to been made at the factory.



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RickB

07-10-2018 18:09:12




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 Re: Now for my baler problem in reply to Mike(NEOhio), 07-10-2018 17:07:39  
That bill hook roller is pure junk.



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paul

07-10-2018 17:57:47




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 Re: Now for my baler problem in reply to Mike(NEOhio), 07-10-2018 17:07:39  
Really sounds like you are pulling from the wrong end.

Minnesota brand used to make twine in their prison work house. A couple prisoners played a prank, and put the twine in the sleeve upside down for a whole run.

Farmers threw that junk twine out, and it kinda ended that production for them. When dad heard what the deal was, he bought a bunch of that twine at an auction sale, very cheap. Just put the balls in upside down, so they were right, and it worked fine.

I can't confirm that story, but how it was told to me.

Paul

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Roger in Iowa

07-10-2018 17:32:28




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 Re: Now for my baler problem in reply to Mike(NEOhio), 07-10-2018 17:07:39  
Are pulling the twine from the correct end of the ball? Beleive they will kink, if not.



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