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Implement Alley Discussion Forum

Sub soiler? Chisel? Buster?

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Aaron Ford

07-10-2018 09:20:17




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I am looking for an implement similar to a potato plow without the "foot". I am looking to pull this with a 45 horse tractor and basically have an adjustable bar that I can drop to a depth of 24". This would be used to clear rocks, roots, ect out of a proposed ditch. It would also serve to break up the soil and make digging easier. Does anyone make such an implement? I have seen potato plows and middle busters rated to 30hp but with limited draft. I would like to pull down to 24". I am CAT II, by the way.

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Aaron

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Aaron Ford

07-11-2018 11:28:18




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 Re: Sub soiler? Chisel? Buster? in reply to Aaron Ford, 07-10-2018 09:20:17  
Thanks everyone. I was thinking I may need to build it myself. Or perhaps with multiple settings so it could be lowered incrementally. I have some thoughts in mind for the design but neeed to get the raw materials together.

Aaron



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dirtpusher

07-11-2018 08:43:35




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 Re: Sub soiler? Chisel? Buster? in reply to Aaron Ford, 07-10-2018 09:20:17  
You might be better off to get someone with a small excavator to dig your ditch and not beat the snot out of your tractor with a sub soiler. I know how hard they can pull and the rippers on alot of bull dozers don't go much deeper than 24 inches. I think the rippers on our deere 850j only goes 30 something and that is a 58000lb dozer.



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SVcummins

07-10-2018 16:51:16




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 Re: Sub soiler? Chisel? Buster? in reply to Aaron Ford, 07-10-2018 09:20:17  

... John Deere subsoiler



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Dick B in CA

07-13-2018 08:28:04




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 Re: Sub soiler? Chisel? Buster? in reply to SVcummins, 07-10-2018 16:51:16  
Is that Killefer ?? or Killefer-Deere ??
The tag should be rivited on the vertical member of the lifting structure.



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Traditional Farmer

07-11-2018 04:19:08




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 Re: Sub soiler? Chisel? Buster? in reply to SVcummins, 07-10-2018 16:51:16  
I have one like that except it has taller wheels and the shank is about 4 ft long,would take a pretty good tractor to pull it.



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SVcummins

07-11-2018 14:28:15




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 Re: Sub soiler? Chisel? Buster? in reply to Traditional Farmer, 07-11-2018 04:19:08  
They had 3 or 4 sizes mine is the smaller one its rated for about 45 horsepower I think the larger ones could be pulled buy a track type tractor



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Leroy

07-11-2018 08:05:11




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 Re: Sub soiler? Chisel? Buster? in reply to Traditional Farmer, 07-11-2018 04:19:08  
They were made for the BIG crawler tractors.



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SVcummins

07-14-2018 15:07:05




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 Re: Sub soiler? Chisel? Buster? in reply to Leroy, 07-11-2018 08:05:11  
Yes Id like to have a big one mine is the smallest size



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Farmallb

07-10-2018 16:20:00




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 Re: Sub soiler? Chisel? Buster? in reply to Aaron Ford, 07-10-2018 09:20:17  
I know that in the 1960 JD catalog, they listed a steel wheel pull type subsoiler.



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Aaron SEIA

07-10-2018 14:24:57




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 Re: Sub soiler? Chisel? Buster? in reply to Aaron Ford, 07-10-2018 09:20:17  
24" is going to be difficult with 45 horse. Multiple passes to get that deep maybe. That deep will require very stout and might be a DIY project.

AaronSEIA



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paul

07-10-2018 17:59:09




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 Re: Sub soiler? Chisel? Buster? in reply to Aaron SEIA, 07-10-2018 14:24:57  
Especially with mention of roots and rocks.....

Paul



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Leroy

07-10-2018 11:19:16




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 Re: Sub soiler? Chisel? Buster? in reply to Aaron Ford, 07-10-2018 09:20:17  
I think you will have to go with a cat ! subsoiler and do the work in multiple passes as I have never heard of a single shank mounted that will do what you want. And a lot of cat 1 implements are rated for 50 HP.



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Traditional Farmer

07-10-2018 09:31:03




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 Re: Sub soiler? Chisel? Buster? in reply to Aaron Ford, 07-10-2018 09:20:17  
A good strong subsoiler would be my choice to do what you want,a middle buster is for use in dirt already worked up.Single shank 24" deep will put a real good size tractor to test.



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Roger in Iowa

07-10-2018 13:15:06




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 Re: Sub soiler? Chisel? Buster? in reply to Traditional Farmer, 07-10-2018 09:31:03  
24 inch is going to be difficult with three point hitch. Don't think there is that much range to the three point arms of most Cat 2 tractors. My 3020 didn't have that much range.



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Traditional Farmer

07-10-2018 13:48:31




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 Re: Sub soiler? Chisel? Buster? in reply to Roger in Iowa, 07-10-2018 13:15:06  
The subsoiler is farther out than the lift arms,the farther out the more up and down travel but he'll have to look for one to got that deep I have one that was built to bury
water pipe.



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