How'd he do buying a plow?

Royse

Well-known Member
My uncle bought this 3/16 plow; I helped him unload it.
We think it's Oliver, but not sure. No tags on it.
No JD castings in it, despite the paint job. There are some part
numbers cast into it, I just didn't get pictures of them.
Feel free to chime in. He paid $175 loaded on the trailer.
Came with an additional set of new plow points and the third
coulter, but not the colter bar to hold it. Not plowing sod, so
not too worried about that and I may have one that fits anyways.

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I believe those were made for the power traction hitch on the Oliver 770s and 880s. I had one. Remind me to show you the scar sometime where I severed the tendons to my thumb on that thing. I bought it down to Archbold at the sale and apparently it came from someplace where they didn't have rocks and the bottoms had never been tripped. I hit one across the road and tripped one. It wouldn't swing back down to reset. I put a bar between the moldboard and brace and started prying down on it. The bar slipped and my hand went between the moldboard and razor sharp cover board. I had to call my sister in law and have her come and get me and take me to the emergency room. I was too light headed to drive after that stunt.
 
That's an Oliver plow. Can't think of the model number right now. Can look at mine tomorrow. That was
built to be pulled by an Oliver 880 or 770. Can be used on other tractors if you have the correct
parts
 
Ya,I pulled mine with a 706 Farmall. I bought it for a 730 Deere,but got rid of the tractor before I got a chance to use it.
 
Thanks guys, I appreciate all the input.
If there are any places I can look or pictures I could take to help
make a positive ID, just let me know. His tractor and plow are still
at my place so it's just a walk out to the back yard to get pictures.

I think he's going to be a bit light as far as using it, so he may take
it down to a 2 bottom with tail wheel or at least adjust it in so it's
not a full 3/16. It is adjustable width wise, which put me on the
Oliver trail. I had a two bottom adjustable Oliver with a steel tail wheel.
Some times I wish I'd never sold it. It worked great.
I hadn't put the tail wheel back on that one yet in this picture.

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"I have plowed about 3 million acres"

That's a lot of acres for a 2 or 3 bottom plow! 2/14's when I was young.
We never used them here either, except when plowing new ground
that wasn't plowed before. The coulters helped cut the sod.
 
That?s an oliver 5440. Built for 880 and 770 tractors. Semi-mounted but not steerable. I think they were adjustable for either 14 or 16 inch
furrow. I would like to find one for my 880. I think that model is fairly rare.
 
The tail wheel setup screams Oliver! Similar design to the later auto reset tail wheel mounting.
 
Reminds me of Oliver.

Can't imagine plowing without real counters, big, full. Getting trash like cornstalks and oat stubble and bean stubble to flow through on clay and
peat ground, tough even with full size new counters.

Paul
 
Plowed a lot with a Steiger quad track and a 12 bottom John
Deere two 6 bottoms hooked together Pulled a Melroe 6
bottom the year before we got the two John Deere . ran John
Deere 7 bottom switch plow over 700 acres a year for a
potato farm, grew up pulling an ih 550 semi mount that was a
good plow Not one of them had Coulter?s
 
I?m sure they wear out and not get takin care of right just like any other tractor I know the last days of my 420c that pos wouldn?t pull an 8 foot double action disk even with the gangs completely strait
 
They were only 56 horse. I had a 1960 in 1976-78. It wasn't wore out,it just wasn't a big tractor. I pulled it once at the fair. It would outpull the 3020s at the end of the pull,pure lugging power,but wouldn't touch the 4010s and 4020s.
 
I?ve heard guys tell stories about 830s out working 4010s . 56 hp is not a very big tractor buy today standards but the old two cylinders have a lot of lugging power
 
They did,but it wasn't wise to take a 730 out and lug the daylights out of it all day. The flywheels wouldn't take it,much less the fact that constantly lugging a tractor of any sort isn't wise. I had one,I know what they were. They were 730s,not 830s. I made a little mistake too,I had it from 75-79.
 
No lugging a tractor to hard all the time isn?t good no matter what kind it is but it?s nice to have when you need it
 
Dad called them lays, I hear shares a lot around here too.

We're there a few old plow designs that had actual points, the front piece of the lay was a separate piece that you could replace? Seems I've seen that.

It is funny how different tillage tools get called in different regions of the country. No one is wrong, just different local custom.

I still shake my head at 'disk harrow' because a disk and a harrow are such different things here in my part of the world. And chisel plows and field cultivators tend to overlap as to what we really are talking about.

Paul
 
At 70, I say that plow points and plow shares are 2 different dogs. Plow points are what goes in front of the share on todays plows. A plow share was a one piece that fit at the bottom of the moldboard. The plow point fit up front of the share and moldboard.
AND, yes, I get a bit aggregated when someone says disc harrow.
 
Probly like creek and crick! Depends where you were raised. I am 80 years old and it has always been plow points here. I never ever heard the term share or lay used to describe a plow point until I read it here. Ad for Oliver plow points in a magazine read (Radix Plow Points)


A spring tooth drag without the word harrow here. The word harrow was never use in our farm auction ads in this area. Pull type plow not a drag plow. A mounted plow had a third link and a semi mounted plow didn't. A pull type disc or wheel type disc without the word harrow. We had wagons and trailers, when we were told to hook onto the trailer we didn't hook onto a wagon. We knew the difference. It didn't take a dictionary or a picture to figure out what to use to get the farming done when I was growing up.


Having a wife that came from the deep South part of Oklahoma I have learned all kinds of words to describe every day articles and implements that cause me to raise my eyebrows. (Quietly) :)^D
 

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