cultivator shields/fenders

First, I salute my fellow vets and their families that paid the ultimate price for our country's freedom. I'm looking to either to buy or build two cultivator shields or fenders for my 3 shovels (all together in the middle) on the back of my Allis C. anyone have any to sell or have info on building any? I'm cultivating sweetcorn and know the results of clods and short corn. Thanks, Ron

Just find a pair of rolling shields off a newer cultivator. Cheap and easy to mount. Just a flat pivot bar and chain to lift it. They work a hundred times better than the old tin/steel solid shields.

The short tines on the edges hold the shield a little off the ground. So clods get stopped from doing damage but lose dirt flows under them. The shield rolling makes it just about plug proof. The old solid shields get clods and sod chunks stuck between them an the shovel. So you have to stop and dig them out. The rolling style just roll over it and you keep cultivating.

I have bought several sets at auctions and salvage yards for $20 bucks each.

You can shorten the brackets easily. I have even made some out of smaller disk blades and welding short rods to them and just using a piece of pipe welded to a mounting bar with a bolt going through it for and axle. You will never wear it out cultivating sweet corn.

Thank you for the photo and info on the rolling shields. I don't know much about them but sounds like the rolling ones are better. Just need to find two

Disk hillers also work good,set them to throw the dirt away for the corn the first time thru and once the corn gets up some turn them around to throw the dirt toward the row and between the plants to cover up the weeds in the row.

Thank you. Is a hiller similar to a regular disk?, and do they attach to the tool bar like the rolling shield?

The 3 sweeps behind the tractor shouldn't throw clods at all. I'd straight up remove the middle one. End ones should be running behind the tires and centered in a 30" or wider row won't throw anything near far enough to take out corn. Just got off the boys C and cultivator working the arena.
AaronSEIA

Sliding shields all went to scarp around here in the 90s. Or earlier.

Rolling shields are selling for a buck a piece at auctions. Basicly going to scarp.

Disk hillers replace the closest shovel, they are on a shank that replaces the shovel. You set the disk to throw away from the plant when little, and up around the plant when large.

Paul

Here is a picture of a hiller attachment. I have used them in gardens but not row crops. I would think you would not get the weeds right next to the row with the first pass. So they would be much bigger by the second cultivation.

Forgot the picture. LOL

Thanks, but the shovels in the back center are closer to the plants so that's been my problem, or I just do center of the rows?

thank you, and thanks for the photo

Dad found what looked like little moldboard plow coverboards for the cultivator sweeps next to the rows, lefts and rights. First time cultivating you bolted them to throw dirt away from the rows, second and later as corn & beans were bigger swap them across the row so they throw dirt into the row. Nothing really to plug, nothing to block your view of the corn/beans going thru the cultivator. Only plugging problem I remember was in the far half of our back 40 we had bad morning glorys couple years. Should have sprayed them but my wages (nothing) and gas for cultivating was about a wash with cost for 2-4D to spray them. About 2-3 times in one pass where they were bad I'd have to stop and remove the vines from the sweeps next to the rows. The rolling shields probably would have removed them. We had nearly new rolling shields but we replaced them with these little cover boards.

The next to last year Dad farmed, I did ALL the cultivating. The back 20 I laid-by in about 2-1/2 hours, cultivating in 7th gear with the 4010. Running around 1900-2100 rpm with the foot throttle, shift into 4th, turn, skip several rows, WFE wouldn't turn tight enough to take the next 4 rows, had to skip 4. Drop the cultivator, ease forward, shift into 7th, grab fender tight and hit the foot throttle! And about a minute later I'd roll up to a stop on the other end of the field. I did the whole 20 in about the timee the neighbor did 4-5 rounds the first time over across the fence.

I never thought much of it till that fall Dad makes a comment when we were picking that field about how smooth that corn field was, he could drive with the rows, at a diagonal, or straight across them and the picker and the M just kinda rolled along like it was floating. I didn't tell him I laid it by at 10 mph.

Can you post a picture of what you've got and what you are worried about? Or e-mail one to me at aaron_cummings(at)hotmail.com I'm having a hard time visualizing just which sweeps you are worried about.
AaronSEIA

ok, let me get photo and I will email it to you. I moved threes sweeps to the middle row because when I had two in the middle and one on each side the tool bar would not balance out so I had skips from the two sweeps in the middle, no matter how I set the depths. So, when I cultivate slow around the small corn its has a tendency to cover the corn and that's why I thought shield would help.

You need half sweeps for the ones that run beside the corn.

Well, now I never thought of that, makes sense. I have a bunch of different size sweeps but no halves. Know where I could get two?

Thanks,

Ron

He sent me some pictures of his setup. What he has is the rear set of tire scratching sweeps off of a front mount cultivator. They stand about 2' straight up on a steel bar and use the old style almost 90° mount sweep. What he really needs and wants is the front parts that were designed to do the row work.
AaronSEIA

(quoted from post at 19:59:46 05/30/18) Well, now I never thought of that, makes sense. I have a bunch of different size sweeps but no halves. Know where I could get two?

Thanks,

Ron

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The half sweeps are just like regular shovels but with a shorter sweep on the side next to the crop. In the picture you can see the Left and Right hand half sweeps in the middle. Just take a regular sweep and cut part of the sweep off that would be next to the row. The does tow things. It makes the sweep throw less dirt towards the crop but also give you more room between the sweeps for row clearance.

We always ran half sweeps next to the row. Then as the corn grew you set them further away for the row and shallow them up so they do not cut the anchor roots on the corn plant.

Thanks for the information on the half shovels and sketch showing the differences

Check out our website for cultivation tools. Or give me a call I'd love to help out! Your crops are probably beyond cultivation stage for this year but maybe for next year. Thanks.

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