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Semi mount plow/on-land

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NYOlivers

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Ok so here is my question, has anyone
converted or fabricated their semi-mount
plow to pull on-land? So what I am asking
is. Still using the semi-mount hitch to hook up to the tractor but the tractor would ride completely up on the unplowed ground, right side tires would not be in the
furrow.

I have seen this before once. It was in a
video online, but unfortunately it has been
removed so I cannot reference it anymore.
To me it would make pulling the plow easier on the tractor and take less setup out of
it. Such as rear wheel spacing and such. Being I am relatively new to using a semi-
mount plow. I understand the basics of
using a plow, or at least I think that I
do. I get that there is a science to
plowing and it takes a lot of time to get
it right and plow correctly. Also depends on soil type and ground conditions. I just thought
it would simplify it some, but maybe not. I guess it depends how much work it would take to set it up to on-land. My example of equipment I will be using is a: 1850 diesel pulling a semi-mount oliver #566 5x bottom plow. Thanks in advance....
 
Don't think you can do it without an on land hitch. Here's a picture of a Oliver 566 with the on land hitch.
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A 5 bottom is borderline.

6 bottom and above need to be online most of the time, and 5 bottom and below typically are in furrow.

Has to do with the width of the plow vs the width of the tractor, you need to be pulling behind the middle of the tractor.

I've never actually run an inland setup.

I would think that is actually a little harder to plow, you can't follow the furrow and you get less traction?

Setup isn't that tough, you have to go through about the same setup either way.

Paul
 
I always hated an on the land plow never could do as good a job of running straight. Once you have setup for in furrow you just need to remember setting or like we did leave one tractor set for plowing and another for row crop.
 
Line of draft will be screwed up for one thing. Plus you need a furrow wheel to help carry the front of the plow.
 
To narrow a plow to even be thinking about that. I think usually only used when you need a dual wheel on furrow side. Did not have big enough farms in this area for that to be considered
 
You cannot get the center of draft and center of pull lined up with only 5 bottoms even if using 5x18. I had a 6x16 on land setup and if the duals were on the furrow side dual was about half out in the air. With those Goodyear radials we rarely needed the duals anyway. It can probably BE done, but it would not pull correctly wearing out bottoms faster and pulling harder.
 
Thanks for all the comments and advice guys! I will just set the tractor up to pull the plow in forrow. Once I get it set I will leave it alone I can use another tractor for row crop work as mentioned by someone. I know I will have to work adjusting the rear wheels from where they are now, who ever did it has them set extremely wide and the wheel centers are set out as far as possible. Its going to take some work to get everything apart. I better make sure the torch tanks are full...
 
Plowed a bunch of acres years ago with a 4430 and a 6-18 onland plow with a coil packer. Really nice to be sitting level in the cab all day instead of leaning to the right.
 
I have a couple pieces of iron here that dad said were a factory conversion for an ih plow doing just what you are asking. Not sure what model plow it was if I remember correctly it was a 6 bottom 16 inch plow. He didn't like it and took it off so yes I'd say it's possible what you're looking for is out there finding it might be harder. I do know these parts I have are very heavy, this in mind if you fabricate something make sure it's strong enough. I may be able to find out more info about this part if needed my email is open
 
I?ve seen 710 semi mount plows set up for onland plowing. The better deal had a front furrow caster wheel. It worked well. Another version had no front wheel and front depth control was poor. As others say, 6-16?s is about as small as you want to go on land.
 
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