Allis chalmers roto baler

SVcummins · Mar 17, 2018

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rrlund · Mar 17, 2018

Wouldn't that be a B with the wide front? Still,that'd be a rough combination. No live power on that thing. You have to stop the tractor with the baler running to put the twine on. They spit out a lot of bales. Not like a big round baler. That'd be a lot of shifting in and out of gear.

Aaron SEIA · Mar 17, 2018

It would be a C with the steering drag link "up". The B had it "down".
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Traditional Farmer · Mar 17, 2018

My father baled with an AC B and Roto Baler for over 10 years before he bought a WD45 not a real great set up but beat the heck out of a pitchfork and loose hay.

JMS/.MN · Mar 17, 2018

Dad bought the Roto Baler in 1948, had a 1939 WC to run it. Tractor had the "traction release" lever which let him stop quickly, but still had to push in the clutch and let things stop before re-engaging the drive line. Did that until 1956, when he bought the WD45, with live power.

rrlund · Mar 17, 2018

Dad had one for one season. He used the Oliver 66 on that one. The old guy he got it from pulled it with a B. The neighbor on the first place south of me pulled one with a John Deere A for a year. That had to be a real treat.

SVcummins · Mar 17, 2018

I can only imagine trying to bale with a tractor and no independent pto although i think a guy could figure it out with a little trying

Rick in Iowa · Mar 17, 2018

my grampa baled many years doing custom baleing using M farmall.there were two years he hit 10,000 bales a year.i learned to drive when I was five steering m and bale trailer between rows of bales.guy up the road bought a suare baler and most of grampas baleing went to him.

SVcummins · Mar 17, 2018

Yes or standing on a slip pulled behind a horse pitching hay up on the wagon

SVcummins · Mar 17, 2018

That's a neat old story. How heavy were the bales from a roto baler

carvel minne farmer · Mar 17, 2018

(quoted from post at 14:51:25 03/17/18) I can only imagine trying to bale with a tractor and no independent pto although i think a guy could figure it out with a little trying

trust me sv. that's not fun! it took me 2 days to bale just over 2 acres here at home with my case 310b (not enough hp. and no live pto!) when your laying over the pic up reel trying to get the 4th plug out in 90 degree heat and your talking to the tractor and the baler loud enough for the neighbor to hear you and hide there kids :evil: that was my performance for the july cut, the late august cut got done in 45 minutes with the mm m5, 65 hp, live pto and amplitorque tranny, after I got the jd 336 baler fixed and set right. the 310b is a great little tractor but definatly not for any pto work :lol:

SVcummins · Mar 18, 2018

I've been in the same situation with the neighbors !!

Farmallb · Mar 18, 2018

How did that work. I seen this done at my Uncle Walts. A slotted sled was pulled behind the bailer. A guy would stack 15 bales on it, then jab a pry bar into the ground, and the bales would slide off. I hated picking them up that way, as you were stopped in the field with no wind moving. with the bales spaced as dropped by the bailer, at least you were moving for the most part.

hd6gtom · Mar 18, 2018

From 1960 to 1969 I baled over 10000 bales a year with one. No knotters to fight. Bales could be as heavy as you wanted to make them. I still have 1, might use it again this year just for memory's sake.

Tx Jim · Mar 19, 2018

After baling many 1000's of rd bales weighing around 1000#s I can't imagine having to stop every time to wrap a bale that weighs 50-60#.

GreenEnvy · Mar 19, 2018

I can't either. After watching some youtube videos I'm amazed they sold one roto baler.

SVcummins · Mar 19, 2018

Grandpa and his brother would harness up a couple horse and hitch the horse to a slip just a flat platform to stand and the horse pulled them through a field and they?d pitch the loose hay up on the hay rack

Bret4207 · Mar 20, 2018

(quoted from post at 16:17:14 03/19/18) I can't either. After watching some youtube videos I'm amazed they sold one roto baler.

Allis had a huge advertising budget and a lot of dealers. You also have to remember that when this thing came out, the "one man" baler was in it's infancy. It took time to iron what was going to be the preferred type of baler.

steve terplak · Mar 20, 2018

My dad has told me of the days of the rotobaler on our family farm.

It was in the hedgerow (pretty rough) until about 10 years ago, gave it to a guy for parts.

Prior to that they had a ford small square baler which had some serious knotter issues - someone had to ride with the baler to tie any missed knots before the bale broke into pieces.

Baled many thousands of small rounds. They were baled and piled on the ground until the month of August when they were hauled to the barn. My dad, as a kid, used to operate the tractor while my grandfather and great grandfather walked along with pitchforks tossing bales onto the wagon.

Eventually the rotobaler was replaced by a NH - I want to say a 66 or 67, for a few years until my grandfather bought our 273 which is still operating problem-free (relatively) today.

I would be curious to see a rotobaler in action someday.

Traditional Farmer · Mar 20, 2018

With an AC WD45 you'd be surprised how much hay you can bale with one,they'll take a big windrow and timing the stop and start is the whole key.It would bale more tons per hour than a
JD 14T.And they were cheap to operate rarely had to work on them.

Tx Jim · Mar 20, 2018

(quoted from post at 13:39:54 03/20/18) With an AC WD45 you'd be surprised how much hay you can bale with one,they'll take a big windrow and timing the stop and start is the whole key.It would bale more tons per hour than a
JD 14T.And they were cheap to operate rarely had to work on them.

I have some "real cheap ocean front property in Arizona" that I'll sell To anyone that can PROVE an AC Roto baler that has to stop every time string is wrapped around a bale will bale more tons per hour than any good tying sq baler not matter what color the small sq baler is.:roll:

steve terplak · Mar 20, 2018

Talked to my dad about it tonight. First year they had rotobaler they only had a MH Jr. Which meant to finish bale they had to put clutch in, take out of gear and release clutch. Got a WD after that.

Dave O'Brien · Mar 22, 2018

Many years ago, Our baler decided to die at the worst possible time. One of the neighbors brought his D14 and roto-baler over and baled. They were a pita to handle, But the hay kept fantastic.
I've heard of some that baled and left them lay in the field and would make that the winter pasture.

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