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IH 430 Baler

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J.A.R

03-11-2018 08:54:16




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I have a 430 given to me a few years ago was wondering if it would be worth trying to get it going again. Only problem is it's been sitting outside now for a good 8 years. It's all complete and did work. I got it last year. Needles and knotters are exposed an rusty. Would this be worth to get going? What would you guys do?




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Stoughtonfarmboy

03-14-2018 09:42:37




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 Re: IH 430 Baler in reply to J.A.R, 03-11-2018 08:54:16  
Try this link for a copy of the operator's manual. I was able to print it. I have IH 430 baler with a kicker. Works pretty good. Knotter is tempermental.

Link https://archive.org/details/IHC_Models_430_440-Baler_1084955_R1_



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redroundhead

03-13-2018 19:05:50




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 Re: IH 430 Baler in reply to J.A.R, 03-11-2018 08:54:16  
I grew up with IH balers - 15 K + bales a year, no problems. Many neighbors had them as well - few had complaints - no more than any other color.

I also have a 430 with a thrower. Great machine.

Like anything, spend some money on the service and operators manuals - then read them. There is alot to know about any machine, and you can skip the aggrevation of learning the hard way, with no book to refrence .

For free is key, lol. As was stated, get the machine cleaned out, and if it is not rusted out, get some clean oil over the whole thing - and keep oiling it- time and volume is your ally. You would be surprised what will free up.

Those keeper springs mentioned are important, as are the breast plate fingers, which are often overlooked. If worn excessively, the twine will slip off, and wrap around the billhooks. Many people will blame the knotters, and they are wrong. Just look around - you can see what is worn.

Anyway, good luck! Hope you end up with a useable machine.

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dhermesc

03-13-2018 07:37:19




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 Re: IH 430 Baler in reply to J.A.R, 03-11-2018 08:54:16  
A 430 with all twine knotters is a pretty good baler. But letting a baler sit outside for 8 years is a slow painful death no matter the make or model. You might get it up and running and you could easily spend a lot of time and never get it to tie a bale again. I agree with the poster below who said to coat everything with oil but I would use new transmission fluid - not old dirty motor oil to soak everything from knotters to plunger rollers to the pickup bearings. Get a manual.


But then I saw a video (youtube) of a guy who kept his old 46 baler outside and it showed him having to break the plunger free (just like last year) and gradually get everything running in an afternoon then start baling with it. I believe he went through this process every year and never kept it in a shed....

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ArleninOr

03-11-2018 21:25:57




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 Re: IH 430 Baler in reply to J.A.R, 03-11-2018 08:54:16  
My books are on their way back from Waupaca, Wi. You can e-mail me.



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povertyknob

03-11-2018 19:15:39




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 Re: IH 430 Baler in reply to J.A.R, 03-11-2018 08:54:16  
I have a IH 430 all twine and I would put it up against anything its size in its time frame, any color..
I would first get real comfy with the operators manual and then start oiling and freeing things up on it..



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Jeff M NY

03-13-2018 17:42:31




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 Re: IH 430 Baler in reply to povertyknob, 03-11-2018 19:15:39  
Absolutely. I had one and it seemed that the more hay that I put to it the better it baled. For it's size it could really eat hay. I would still have it but I got a good deal on a CIH inline , so I upgraded. It had the roller thrower on the back of it as well. Make sure that the springs that keep the tension on the twine are good, believe it or not it does make a difference on how they tie. I always blew it off after each use and greased it so it would be ready for the next time.

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c.amick

03-11-2018 14:35:44




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 Re: IH 430 Baler in reply to J.A.R, 03-11-2018 08:54:16  
Is that the IH redesigned baler that had fewer chains and sprockets and more gear driven parts? If it is, I think it was a pretty good baler.



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flying belgian

03-11-2018 11:54:47




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 Re: IH 430 Baler in reply to J.A.R, 03-11-2018 08:54:16  
I have heard nothing but bad for an IH baler. I say cut your losses and get rid of it. Oh wait, you got it free.



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greg oliver

03-11-2018 11:33:58




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 Re: IH 430 Baler in reply to J.A.R, 03-11-2018 08:54:16  
J.A.R., I had a 430 my dad bought for $800 worked good for a few years. I cobbed a New Holland thrower on it and it worked but bought a #47 with a good thrower at auction. I had some knotter problems when I had a lot of hay down and the local super salesman from CIH showed up. Payment was around $180 a month and after 20 years of pulling wore out balers it was nice to pull a new one! The one thing with older balers have 2 if one dies you can hook on another. We had a round baler for back up as mother nature can be unpredictable.

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J.A.R

03-11-2018 11:06:55




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 Re: IH 430 Baler in reply to J.A.R, 03-11-2018 08:54:16  
Ya iv never really heard much good for IH balers either as I'm a minni mo guy but since it was free a guy can't turn it down lol. What would this baler be worth if i got it working? Tin is in excellent shape don't look like it really baled much as far as moving parts go. I'm in Wisconsin.



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tomturkey

03-11-2018 11:01:42




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 Re: IH 430 Baler in reply to J.A.R, 03-11-2018 08:54:16  
Change the oil in your tractor, then start painting nearly every single moving part with oil. Don't paint the knotter brake. Make sure and get the guide rails for the packer/compressor. Let it soak get it all freed up and give it a go. Many have nothing good to say about IH balers, others have had better experiences. Time will tell. gobble



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J.A.R

03-11-2018 10:56:44




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 Re: IH 430 Baler in reply to J.A.R, 03-11-2018 08:54:16  
Where would be a good place to order a book? Jensales or?



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tomturkey

03-11-2018 18:38:29




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 Re: IH 430 Baler in reply to J.A.R, 03-11-2018 10:56:44  
Try Binder books gobble



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DeltaRed

03-11-2018 10:26:18




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 Re: IH 430 Baler in reply to J.A.R, 03-11-2018 08:54:16  
O would lube it good and make sure everything turns. Then I'd feed it some hay with a fork,trip the knotters a few times. See what happens.If everything seems "up to snuff",order a book.



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