John Deere plow bottoms

SVcummins

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Can somebody tell me what model bottoms are on this plow
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they look like old 'blacksmith' shares.All I can say is you wont be happy with a JohnDeere plow after pulling an International plow.
 
I?ve pulled and owned them both and can?t tell any difference I like the way the John Deere turns the dirt . I was kinda thinking they were blacksmith bottoms as well hopefully Tyler the plow guy will answer
 
Looking at age of plow , I'm thinking NGP334 if 14" /NGP336 if 16".. they were made up to '1968'.. NGP is New General Purpose/ PC 158 on jdparts.com has lots of info..
 
I agree with you. No other plow turns the dirt over as nice as the Deere. Oliver pulls easier and if you need a reset plow for rocks IH had the best in the 710. Tom
 
Blacksmith type, look for the bolt holding them on, The throw away type did not use that large bolt to pull them into place.
 
Dad bought the matching Deere 4-14 plow to pull with his JD R diesel spring of 1964. Dad hated running the tractor, said it was MY tractor, and it sat until I could run it on weekends and he would run his Super M-TA. Only pulled the Deere plow on 40 acres of alfalfa sod. Got tired of crawling around the field in 2nd gear, had one hill I had to drop into low gear on. Rest of the plowing I pulled a 3-14 IH #8, could run in 3rd gear then. Still had 16 acres of plowing left when the R left the farm, pulled the Deere plow with the SM-TA on that. Deere plow disappeared shortly after we were done plowing.

Really disliked the IH #8 plows, Dad had two. No trash clearance. Neighbor had good things to say about Case plows, Dad bought a 4-14 Case pull plow to use with a Midwest plow harrow behind a 450 Farmall. Plugging when plowing old corn ground almost stopped completely. Couple years later the Case 4-14 was traded for a Case 5-14 and the plow harrow widened accordingly to use behind the 4010-D. Plowed 30 acres and the back bottom was pulled off the plow, was back in 2nd gear in corn ground again. That plow sold as a 4-14 with a spare bottom and coulter.

The newer IH pull plows, #60 & #70 would be my first choice but I'd have no problem buying or using a good Case plow. I have NO desire to plow with a #8 plow again, I've wasted enough time in my life digging corn stalks out of them.
 
You can get new shares but they are expencige. Forget Tyler he is just a reseller, nothing against him. But go straight to the factory and that is Steve Rea at Ploworx. Just had his information in my hand yesterday don't know where I laid it off hand. He bought out the old cresent forge. Just go back thru this section and you will find dozens of reference to him. He is in Ohio. I think there is 2 or 3 referals to hin on here since new years day. If you use it you will have to learn how to sharpen the shares with heat that I can help with.
 
Steve Smith of Republic, Ohio is known as the Plow peddler and he may have new or good used shares. [email protected] 419-618-0017 Last fall I sold him a bunch of plow parts I no longer had use for Including JD shares. Nice guy.
 
As of now just go back 3 pages on Jan 29 and you will find Ploworx information. Steve rea, 13909 Duck Creek Rd., Salem, Ohio 44460 330-332-9386 [email protected] web www.ploworx.com Still have leters on my computor from when he first started, seens nice. And on those shares that big bolt you see hooks onto a hook on back side of share and that is what holds the share on. A 3/8" bolt with a small casting on that bolt goes into a notch on the frog and if the big bolt comes loose that small one will keep share from falling off. And I know Steve Smith has those pieces as that is some of what I sold him last November.
 
Thanks for all the replies the shares on the plow are in excellent shape but it?s always nice to keep a replacement or two on hand
 
You look to have an F120 plow based on what I see in the photos. NGP (New General Purpose) type bottoms were available up through the 1960's as a special order type item although rarely seen on plows made in the 1960's.

That 8224 brace was used on a lot of bottoms and it won't narrow down your bottom specifically to less than a hand full. The guess is that you have 14" bottoms although the frame size may be 12" (hard to eyeball that) as it was a seldom seen optional size on the F110/ F120 plows.
Steve Rea who owns/ operates Ploworx.com is making new shares in 12, 14, and 16 inch sizes to fit most of the NGP series his parts are nice and he is very pleasant to deal with. Steve Smith from Ohio specializes in IHC & Oliver although he may happen to have what your plow would require...just have to check with him.

You will want to remove a plow share to confirm a part number as there is a small possibility that the bottoms on your plow may be of the "heavy-duty" variety meaning different plow shares versus the more common NGP series. The below share numbers will be mixed in with alphabetical prefixes such as BC BCA BH BHA among others but the number is what you need to know...
215 share = 12" NGP common
217 share = 14" NGP common
250 share = 14 NGP heavy duty (will not interchange with the 217 shares)

You may also want to look at some plow books written on the subject by David Wolfe (see website link) for additional information.
Best of luck to you on your quest and you never know... once you know the part numbers you need perhaps you'll get lucky in finding some at auction this year on a pallet for cheap. New shares will cost you well north of $100 each and used that are worthwhile perhaps between $50-$75 each. There are options for what you'll need but it's up to you to decide the value you're willing to put on having extra parts.

Disclaimer...
The above may be best taken with a grain of salt as it might simply be hog wash coming from someone is purportedly only a "part re-seller"... of course for the fun part of message boards you get the liberty of deciding for yourself what is good information among the alternative information.
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Good information. I just ment by reseller that he might just as well go to Steve and the factory as him having to order thru you and then you having to still order from Steve. I have never delt with you or met you but I think you do good with other things and if you can find those shares laying around forgotten about someplace. One thing on the numbers that you did not mention is if the old shares are Star brand that most shares around here were, made for all makes, they had their own numbers so they are not the same as the factory numbers so you would need the old conversion charts for converting if from their numbers to Deere numbers no way to convert that I know except visual and try. I think Cressent forge might have had their own numbers but don't know. I have hammered sharping many a share with a forge and andville in my time. Some of the shares I just sold to Steve Smith last November had the star numbering on them. We need all the parts guys like you.
 

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