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Sickle mower horsepower

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SVcummins

02-05-2018 20:56:02




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What horsepower does it take to run a sickle mower will this pto shaft run it ? https://www.agrisupply.com/pto-shaft-series-1-6-spline/p/102265/?sid=asf10&eid=Easf10&utm_source=GoogleShopping&utm_medium=CSE&utm_campaign=MerchAdv&zmam=77232640&zmas=1&zmac=1&zmap=102265&utm_source=google-shopping&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=NB_PLA_PTOShaftsAccessoriess_NW_GOOG&utm_term=shopping&utm_content=s9HlirsSd_dtpcrid194324646884pkwpmtproduct102265&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIt-n4h72Q2QIVSGB-Ch0M5gqHEAQYASABEgJr9_D_BwE

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showcrop

02-08-2018 18:50:19




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 Re: Sickle mower horsepower in reply to SVcummins, 02-05-2018 20:56:02  
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I would say that Roger was doing 4-5 mph.



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showcrop

02-08-2018 14:34:21




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 Re: Sickle mower horsepower in reply to SVcummins, 02-05-2018 20:56:02  
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The hay will fall a lot better and will produce fewer bunches and clogs running at fairy good clip. The farmer that I worked for back in the sixties used to really fly with his 8N and 7 foot side mount sickle.



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SVcummins

02-08-2018 17:48:59




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 Re: Sickle mower horsepower in reply to showcrop, 02-08-2018 14:34:21  
The operators manual says 4 to 5 mph that's movin pretty good



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fixerupper

02-08-2018 11:19:00




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 Re: Sickle mower horsepower in reply to SVcummins, 02-05-2018 20:56:02  
I have run a Deere#5, 7foot mower with a Farmall B and the tractor wasn’t hardly working. The front end wanted to slide a bit sideways from the cutter bar draft though. A B has 18 HP.



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Farmallb

02-08-2018 09:33:20




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 Re: Sickle mower horsepower in reply to SVcummins, 02-05-2018 20:56:02  
SPEED has a lot to do with the amount of power it would take to power a specific length of mower bar.
Putting 2 horses at a fast gait would poop them out faster than at a normal gate for them. 3 horses would make a substantial difference.
People nowadays may not want to be content with mowing at the same speeds as our dads and granddads did.
It would take a more powerful tractor to go at a more faster speed then they did back then.

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DR. EVIL

02-07-2018 08:25:41




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 Re: Sickle mower horsepower in reply to SVcummins, 02-05-2018 20:56:02  
HABAN made 4 ft cut sickle mowers for garden tractors. They used 5/8" shafts for the pulleys driven off the garden tractor's mower drive pto. Anything 1 inch square or round should be plenty big enough for a 7 ft mower.



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Leroy

02-07-2018 08:09:32




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 Re: Sickle mower horsepower in reply to SVcummins, 02-05-2018 20:56:02  
The earlier version of the No. 8 was the No. 5 and Deere advertised it using an H Deere of 14 belt Horsepower so that is not much. Belt horsepower closley equals PTO horsepower but might be a bit higher from not having to run the gears for the PTO. Biggest tractor made at that time that could run a mower was probably in the around the upper 30's So they would not have designed it for a 70 HP load

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SVcummins

02-07-2018 13:36:49




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 Re: Sickle mower horsepower in reply to Leroy, 02-07-2018 08:09:32  
Leroy I hope you’ll be around this summer whe we go to actually use this thing you know an awful lot about these mowers



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showcrop

02-07-2018 03:35:08




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 Re: Sickle mower horsepower in reply to SVcummins, 02-05-2018 20:56:02  
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The shaft to my sickle bar is no more than an inch square.



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carvel minne farmer

02-06-2018 22:00:03




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 Re: Sickle mower horsepower in reply to SVcummins, 02-05-2018 20:56:02  
what tractor are you planning on pulling it with sv.?



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SVcummins

02-06-2018 22:04:34




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 Re: Sickle mower horsepower in reply to carvel minne farmer, 02-06-2018 22:00:03  
The 3020 I know the tractor has the power but I'm trying to find a pto shaft that will work



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Destroked 450

02-06-2018 21:16:56




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 Re: Sickle mower horsepower in reply to SVcummins, 02-05-2018 20:56:02  
Dad had a blacksmith make a hitch to connect our #5 JD mower to his 8N ford tractor. It would jerk the end out of the pitman rod before it choked the tractor or twisted the pto shaft.



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c.amick

02-06-2018 16:31:38




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 Re: Sickle mower horsepower in reply to SVcummins, 02-05-2018 20:56:02  
About 23 horse power should be enough with a sharp knife. That's about the horsepower of the Farmall Super A's and C's that had a 7 ft. bar option. Most were 6 ft.



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mtman

02-06-2018 09:52:35




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 Re: Sickle mower horsepower in reply to SVcummins, 02-05-2018 20:56:02  
Well years ago when I was a kid on the home farm I mowed with a sickle bar mower with 2 horse power. There names were Flori and Tony. Just kidding you all but that's what I used.



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Farmallb

02-06-2018 20:35:20




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 Re: Sickle mower horsepower in reply to mtman, 02-06-2018 09:52:35  
I also used a 2 horse IHC mower 6ft I believe, while dad used the #5 JD on a 48 H Farmall. Those horses were named Florie also, and Dixie. Ive gotr a #9 McD 6ft now, and a 48 H Farmall, and used them last week to cut an acre of dead grass. Too lazy to hook up the IHC simi mount for an acre.



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Bob

02-06-2018 09:32:45




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 Re: Sickle mower horsepower in reply to SVcummins, 02-05-2018 20:56:02  
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Yes.

That's what I said.
Parts catalog lists the U-joint cross kit as # AE793E, which is a kit for a 6R series driveline.



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rufus80

02-06-2018 07:39:51




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 Re: Sickle mower horsepower in reply to SVcummins, 02-05-2018 20:56:02  
We used ,continue to use, our 52 MT with a jd no5 7' mower. It handles just fine for the past 66 years. Also used to pull a NH 479 mower conditioner with our 52 A.



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showcrop

02-06-2018 05:07:04




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 Re: Sickle mower horsepower in reply to SVcummins, 02-05-2018 20:56:02  
A friend used to pull a 5 footer with his 2 cylinder 17HP Kubota, no problem at all.



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hydro70guy

02-06-2018 05:06:20




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 Re: Sickle mower horsepower in reply to SVcummins, 02-05-2018 20:56:02  
I cannot imagine a PTO shaft built to light to run a sickle mower. That does not make sense to me the only way it takes much HP at all is if its very dull and extra long.

Joe



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KL in Wi

02-06-2018 05:02:22




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 Re: Sickle mower horsepower in reply to SVcummins, 02-05-2018 20:56:02  
I cut many acres of hay with an 8N Ford and a 7ft NH mower. It had plenty power.



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Traditional Farmer

02-06-2018 03:06:20




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 Re: Sickle mower horsepower in reply to SVcummins, 02-05-2018 20:56:02  
I pull a 7ft New Holland trailer sickle bar mower with a 31 HP Yanmar if that helps.



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DeltaRed

02-05-2018 21:35:23




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 Re: Sickle mower horsepower in reply to SVcummins, 02-05-2018 20:56:02  
Not really sure what you are asking...but we used to run a jd #5 on a Farmall H in high altitude grass hay in 8000' Gunnison Co.The old worn out H had no problem with the heavy tough hay.



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SVcummins

02-05-2018 22:10:36




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 Re: Sickle mower horsepower in reply to DeltaRed, 02-05-2018 21:35:23  
I need to make a longer pto shaft and agri supply has some but I need to know about how much horsepower it will take to run the mower so I get a shaft that’s heavy enough



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SVcummins

02-05-2018 21:40:27




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 Re: Sickle mower horsepower in reply to DeltaRed, 02-05-2018 21:35:23  
How many hp are they



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DeltaRed

02-10-2018 07:58:29




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 Re: Sickle mower horsepower in reply to SVcummins, 02-05-2018 21:40:27  
An H was 27 HP at sea level when new.At that altitude and it's worn out status,20.



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Bob

02-05-2018 21:19:20




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 Re: Sickle mower horsepower in reply to SVcummins, 02-05-2018 20:56:02  
Your DEERE #8 mower originally used a "6 series" driveshaft.

That driveline series is rated between 12 and 16 HP @ 540 RPM;s, depending upon which source you choose to rely on.



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SVcummins

02-05-2018 21:29:11




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 Re: Sickle mower horsepower in reply to Bob, 02-05-2018 21:19:20  
The oem Deere is rated at 12 to 16?



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graham of New Zealand

02-06-2018 02:08:01




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 Re: Sickle mower horsepower in reply to SVcummins, 02-05-2018 21:29:11  
On a different note, two horsepower used to pull a mower and drive a 4' 6" sickle cutter bar. (But needed a rest and a drink now and then)



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Leroy

02-06-2018 08:23:49




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 Re: Sickle mower horsepower in reply to graham of New Zealand, 02-06-2018 02:08:01  
They still do 7' but 6' is prefered. About had to go to a 1 horse to get that small of bar.



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