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Cutting a drill in half

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Ultradog MN

02-04-2018 11:57:44




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I know a guy that has a 12' I think it's an MM drill I could buy pretty reasonable. It's a rope/mechanical lift, on rubber and has always been shedded. Has grass seed boxes on it.
I've been thinking about buying it and make two 6 footers out of it. Keep one and sell the other to the deer plotters.
I'm a pretty fair welder, fabricator so not afraid of that part. I think most of these old drills were actually two seperate machines side by side weren't they?
Kind of wondering if there would be any gotchas that I haven't thought about.
Thanks.

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SVcummins

02-10-2018 10:09:48




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 Re: Cutting a drill in half in reply to Ultradog MN, 02-04-2018 11:57:44  
We had an old IHC drill that had two separate lift clutches and two separate seed meters a drill like that would be pretty easy to split it also had two separate caster wheels



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rdandersom

02-09-2018 14:13:55




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 Re: Cutting a drill in half in reply to Ultradog MN, 02-04-2018 11:57:44  
I've seen pictures that had 1 wheel and 3 point hitch.



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Leroy

02-09-2018 14:34:08




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 Re: Cutting a drill in half in reply to rdandersom, 02-09-2018 14:13:55  
That could not have worked as the ground wheels control depth that a 3 point connot hold that close to a quarter inch in heigh or position.



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SVcummins

02-10-2018 09:56:47




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 Re: Cutting a drill in half in reply to Leroy, 02-09-2018 14:34:08  

It actually works really well the springs on the openers control the depth of the seed



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Leroy

02-10-2018 16:30:07




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 Re: Cutting a drill in half in reply to SVcummins, 02-10-2018 09:56:47  
All drills I have ever seen have a wheel at each end to carry the frame and from the frame the openers are set to depth and without those end wheels setting the frame height a 3 point will not hold a depth as should for that, same thing that a 3 point cultivator does not hold a perfect depth. That is why later 3 point cultivators have depth wheels on each gang.



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SVcummins

02-10-2018 16:41:14




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 Re: Cutting a drill in half in reply to Leroy, 02-10-2018 16:30:07  
We donít have end wheel drills around here only press drills I would never want one after having a drill with press wheels



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Leroy

02-11-2018 08:36:58




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 Re: Cutting a drill in half in reply to SVcummins, 02-10-2018 16:41:14  
Think I have seen one press wheel drill in my 74 years. Under some conditions the end wheel drills that have a press wheel behind the opener would be good but not in all planting conditions. That I would think has to be used in very dry planting conditions that we don't have around here usually.



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SVcummins

02-11-2018 16:22:39




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 Re: Cutting a drill in half in reply to Leroy, 02-11-2018 08:36:58  
The little press wheels don't like much moisture that's for sure . I can be drilling and be fine when those little plastic wheels can't go



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Leroy

02-11-2018 21:06:13




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 Re: Cutting a drill in half in reply to SVcummins, 02-11-2018 16:22:39  
The amount of moisture in ground here in drilling usually would have those wheels packed sollid with mud.



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Briar Hill Brittanys

02-06-2018 06:25:43




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 Re: Cutting a drill in half in reply to Ultradog MN, 02-04-2018 11:57:44  
Don't know about MM drills. I've channeled 4 different JD drills. Three FBs, and 1 FB-A. I wanted to make 2 from 1, but each drill had a drive gear busted on one side. Built the first 3, sold them for crazy money, then found the one pictured below. It's got the small seed box, and the fertilizer section works. Originally it was a 17-7, 17 drops on 7" spacing. Now it's 8 drops, will hold about 200# of rye or similar seed.



Here's another one, 7 drops on 7", no small seed box, but the fertilizer section worked.

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Ultradog MN

02-07-2018 05:07:25




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 Re: Cutting a drill in half in reply to Briar Hill Brittanys, 02-06-2018 06:25:43  
Nice.
Cute little drills.
I had an 8' JD model EE for a few years.
On steel, had the grass seed box.
But even an 8' needs at least a 9' door to get it into the shed and mine are only 8'
So it sat outside for a few years till I felt sorry for it and sold it.



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JMS/.MN

02-05-2018 13:15:55




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 Re: Cutting a drill in half in reply to Ultradog MN, 02-04-2018 11:57:44  
Jerry- we talked about that many years ago when you were here...I showed you my 10 ft Moline, low rubber, mid 50s drills. Ideal to split- has a lift on each side, separate grass and grain boxes on each side. Still many around, generally 3/4/500 bux or so. You"d need a dummy wheel for each side, leave the drives intact. Check the STC, Brainerd craigslists.



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Ultradog MN

02-05-2018 15:20:38




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 Re: Cutting a drill in half in reply to JMS/.MN, 02-05-2018 13:15:55  
Jim,
I remember that visit and talking with you about this.
That's getting to be a while ago now - 2002 I think.



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Leroy

02-05-2018 08:41:30




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 Re: Cutting a drill in half in reply to Ultradog MN, 02-04-2018 11:57:44  
Friend did that with a Deere steel wheel drill, looks factory. But you would need a doner drill to get enough parts to make a second drill. So if you want narrower drill go for cutting down BUT FORGET about making a second drill. Just keep the rest for repair parts. Not only need complete extra axle assembly but hitch also and to make the parts for second it would look like crap and you could not sell enough for what you would get for the left over parts from scrap price.

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Bob

02-04-2018 12:36:16




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 Re: Cutting a drill in half in reply to Ultradog MN, 02-04-2018 11:57:44  
As long as it has two individual "lifts" and metering drive "clutches" it should be doable, just have to fabricate an extra par of "spindles" and come up with suitable wheel/hub assemblies.



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Farmallb

02-05-2018 10:22:55




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 Re: Cutting a drill in half in reply to Bob, 02-04-2018 12:36:16  
Im guessing they have only one lift mech. So now your down to making another lift mech, and 2 wheels at least.



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