Sickle mower ledger plate

SVcummins

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Would these be usable on the Guards they sell today
https://www.ebay.com/itm/John-Deere-Sickle-Mower-Chrome-Guard-Plates-/372158909643
 
It's been decades since I've seen a guard that used them. The old single guards on sickle mowers used them,but most everything today uses disposable double guards. I've got a whole can of those things out in the shop. The 4 legged deer on the box should be a tip to their age.
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"[b:654c4848f0][i:654c4848f0]<font color="#6699ff">Would these be usable on the Guards they sell today[/i:654c4848f0][/b:654c4848f0]</font>"

Take a look at the diagram below.
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Note the chromed snap-in plate (Key 7), outside guard (Key 8), and guard (Key 9).

Take a look at the photos below of an outside guard.
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Note the hole for the back of the snap-in plate.
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Note the opening for the front of the snap-in plate.
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If a guard sold today is the same design or replacement for the original gaurd, then the snap-in plates offered on eBay will be usable; otherwise, they will not be usable.

Hope this helps.
 
I have never had good luck getting replacement ledger plates to stay in those guards. The only way I have made them stay in was to tack weld the back of the ledger plate to the guard.
 
"[b:654c4848f0][i:654c4848f0]I have never had good luck getting replacement ledger plates to stay in those guards.[/i:654c4848f0][/b:654c4848f0]"

Agree.

The OEM guard in the photo came off a 39N mower.
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Replaced all the old snap-in guards with the "smooth" guards.
 
Thanks a million for the info your knowledge on these old mowers is helpful I?m going to rebuild my no. 8 and cut some hay next summer hopefully you can offer some tips on makin her cut hay
 
Replaced all the old snap-in guards with the "smooth" guards.

"Replaced all the old snap-in guards with the "smooth" guards"

James, would you mind explaining that? or explaining further what you are using currently? I was thinking of replacing the menagerie of guards on my #5 with all "old" style John Deere guards with the snap-in ledger plate like you show above. My uncle swears by these guards since they are narrower than the aftermarket throw-away guards and being narrower should effectively increase cutting capacity.
 
First I ever heard of snap in guards and plates and I bough my firs mower back in the 1950's. And using Dads before I bough the first. Rivet in plates are hard to get tight.
 
If you are going to make hay with your No 8 I want to throw an idea at you. A friend of mine had an Allis mower and he put the two prong haybine guards on it. He said they are thinner and clog up much less than the reguler sickle bar mower guards. Considering the experience I have had with sickle mowers (not very good) I think this would be a great idea. Maybe someone will post why it would not be good then I will learn something new. Tom
 
"[b:654c4848f0][i:654c4848f0]<font color="#6699ff">explaining further what you are using currently?[/i:654c4848f0][/b:654c4848f0]</font>"
 
Sorry about that; clicked the <big>WRONG</big> button.

"[b:654c4848f0][i:654c4848f0]<font color="#6699ff">explaining further what you are using currently?[/i:654c4848f0][/b:654c4848f0]</font>"

The original post by [b:654c4848f0]SVCummins[/b:654c4848f0] concerns chrome ledger plates for his No. 8 sickle mower.

I refurbished a No. 39N sickle mower that has the same, identical guards as the No. 8 sickle mower.

The photo of the outside guard had lost the original "[i:654c4848f0]chromed snap-in plate[/i:654c4848f0]" as described in the parts diagram.

This guard came off my No. 39N sickle mower.

All of the original guards on my No. 39N mower were replaced with single guards that did not have ledger plates.

These guards were aftermarket, universal JD guards that were purchased at Tractor Supply.
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The knife was rebuilt using underserrated knife sections.
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The rebuilt knife with underserrated knife sections and aftermarket TSC guards cut pretty good.

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"[b:654c4848f0][i:654c4848f0]<font color="#6699ff">I was thinking of replacing the menagerie of guards on my #5 with all "old" style John Deere guards with the snap-in ledger plate like you show above.[/i:654c4848f0][/b:654c4848f0]</font>"

Pure speculation on my part, but the guards will more than likely fit/work on your No. 5 cutter bar.

You might consider "testing" one guard to see if it fits/works.

Hope this helps.
 
You might call Rouse Rakes in Burwell, Ne. I bought a complete brand new knife for my mower for under $80. This included the knife head and everything. Much cheaper than trying to build one yourself!!
 
I found a store that use to sell all kinds of farm stuff but now they are just clothing store and hardware store anyway they?ve got a basement full of sickle mower parts grass boards pitman sticks and guards . They also have old plow shares and they even had some of the old blacksmith style plow shares.
 

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