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Pre-1930 John Deere Dain Side Delivery Hay Rake

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HillsideFarm1932

12-07-2017 14:23:50




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Restoring a 1928-29 three bar John Deere Dain Side Delivery Hay Rake that belonged to my grandpa and am in need of a few "smalls" in the parts department.
This is the one that had wood clamped to the tinebars and the tine holding ends went through the wood. Pretty sure all the pre1930 JD Dain units were like this.
I need some of the cast clamps that held the wood in place on the tinebar(both the top ones and the ones on bottom that went between the tinebar and wood) I also need some tines.
Need at least 6 of each but will purchase more if priced fairly since I'd like some spares. I plan to use it when finished but only on 2 acres of timothy hay. I also need all 3 lever latch adjusting handles mine are missing.
Has been out of service for about 60 years!
Send pics if possible along with price and quantity available to my email below. Thank You! Kevin
Email: KvMoc@aol.com

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doa44green

12-08-2017 16:50:37




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 Re: Pre-1930 John Deere Dain Side Delivery Hay Rake in reply to HillsideFarm1932, 12-07-2017 14:23:50  
I think I may have one in the woods. I'll try to send you some photos in a few days.
Don



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730virgil

12-08-2017 08:23:15




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 Re: Pre-1930 John Deere Dain Side Delivery Hay Rake in reply to HillsideFarm1932, 12-07-2017 14:23:50  
try ag supply in north carolina



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Leroy

12-09-2017 07:52:53




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 Re: Pre-1930 John Deere Dain Side Delivery Hay Rake in reply to 730virgil, 12-08-2017 08:23:15  
No use even trying, they will not have them. Remember that rake is 90 years old and very few were ever sold as the dump rake was what was still selling and it would be easier to find a new tooth for a dump rake now than that Dain that was built as far back as at least 1922. His only chance to get teeth would be to find a place that makes springs but then the cost even if they could make them would be over a hundred dollars a piece. The closest tooth I have ever seen that might be able to be mounted is from a David Bradley and those are not avaible either. Teeth for a Moline made in the 50's are not avaible either. I have access to local dealers that have the catalogs of every rake tooth made that is avaible. I have modified things to put McCormick teeth on a Moline rake and For Case a New Idea tooth can be used but a Case tooth will not work on a New Idea. And some rake teeth are hardened steel and others are not and can be straightened, some will just break. So to get a tooth that looks half ways correct for that rake he could take 3/16" steel rod and bend it to shape and it might (?) last for a short while but it might bend as soon as tried. I have rebuilt dozens of steel wheel rakes over the last few years to go back in to fields to go to work. Have a New Idea setting here just finished waiting to be delievered and a second waiting along with a John Deere. Did you know a real from a Massey Harris can be put in a McCormick. A 594Ly Deere can be converted to a high steel wheel model? And I have put the New Idea 4 bar real into a 3 bar frame. Or that the frame can be changed from a low wheel rubber rake to the high steel wheel rake? I have done all these changes. I have rebuilt JD, McC. Case, Moline, MH rakes,never had a Coop but New Idea parts work for them. Oliver and AC never made a steel wheel ground drive rake.

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DeltaRed

12-08-2017 07:43:56




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 Re: Pre-1930 John Deere Dain Side Delivery Hay Rake in reply to HillsideFarm1932, 12-07-2017 14:23:50  
I'm with Graham. On a machine that old,you may have to resort to making some parts and modifying others to make it work. May not be a 'factory perfect' show piece,but can be made to be quite useable.Add a little paint and it will still look sharp.



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Leroy

12-07-2017 16:57:46




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 Re: Pre-1930 John Deere Dain Side Delivery Hay Rake in reply to HillsideFarm1932, 12-07-2017 14:23:50  
I have one of them but no extra parts and don't know of any place you can get them. A lot of rakes the Amish can get parts for but not them. For the pieces to hold the wood bar on just uses fender washers of 1.5" outside diameter with standard washer against the fender washer that will be smaller outside diameter but will strngthed the fender washer to where it will work. As far as teeth I have no idea what would work.

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graham of New Zealand

12-07-2017 22:21:32




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 Re: Pre-1930 John Deere Dain Side Delivery Hay Rake in reply to Leroy, 12-07-2017 16:57:46  
I'm sure a spring maker would make tines in a jiffy especially if you have one to take as a sample. Actually if you can get your hands on some suitable wire spring. you could make up a former and make a few yourself. Might not be factory quality but do a bit and look ok. Might even be able to modify some existing tines. Always worth a try, I say.



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Farmallb

12-08-2017 08:13:50




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 Re: Pre-1930 John Deere Dain Side Delivery Hay Rake in reply to graham of New Zealand, 12-07-2017 22:21:32  
I had a 3 bar JD, not that old, as a kid, and I never saw the difference in the quality of the windrow or any more leavings than with my dads 4 bar rake I have now.
Try MacNairs in Penn. IF you have any teeth left on it as a guide, there are parts catalogs that have numerous sizes and shapes of teeth and you might find just what you need.
I bought teeth for my rake from a supplier. They were too long, and hit the center reel. I had to cut them down, and put a slight bend on the tip end. Havnt used it yet tho so I don't know how it will work, but I suspect just fine.

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