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Ford Industrial 19-105 FEL

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Hdonly

12-07-2017 04:53:33




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Just bought this front end loader to mount on my Jubilee tractor. Anyone one have one of these on an NAA or 600 and how do you like it? The picture shows it on an 8N. It's sitting on the back of my truck right now. I have to make the front pump and loader attachment plates. Also have to make the rear attachments. The parts from the 8N won't fit my Jubilee.

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Hdonly

12-09-2017 14:20:49




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 Re: Ford Industrial 19-105 FEL in reply to Hdonly, 12-07-2017 04:53:33  
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Ain't that what everybody on this forum does is work on their tractor? I am retired, it will keep me off the streets and out of trouble-haha



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hd6gtom

12-09-2017 14:14:36




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 Re: Ford Industrial 19-105 FEL in reply to Hdonly, 12-07-2017 04:53:33  
Brochures were made to sell loaders. With power steering and a hoe on the back you might be ok. Fil had an industrial ford that size with loader and hoe. Was always working on the steering system. Good luck with it.



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carvel minne farmer

12-09-2017 07:00:02




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 Re: Ford Industrial 19-105 FEL in reply to Hdonly, 12-07-2017 04:53:33  
it is amazing how far these trees send out roots, when I plowed and summer fallowed my field here at home I was busting roots over 50 ft. from the tree line! these dam poplar trees are worse than any weeds we have up here for suckering.



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Hdonly

12-09-2017 03:46:40




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 Re: Ford Industrial 19-105 FEL in reply to Hdonly, 12-07-2017 04:53:33  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to seeHe just reached down and grabbed most of them (4" - 6") with the bucket and thumb and ripped them right out of the ground. The trees had been cut off about six months beforehand. Plus the ground here is nothing but sand. It is still amazing how hard a tree can be stuck in this sand sometimes. Lots of spreader roots.



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carvel minne farmer

12-08-2017 19:34:42




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 Re: Ford Industrial 19-105 FEL in reply to Hdonly, 12-07-2017 04:53:33  
now that hoe will make short work of any stumps for sure.



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Hdonly

12-08-2017 14:15:10




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 Re: Ford Industrial 19-105 FEL in reply to Hdonly, 12-07-2017 04:53:33  
I like the YANMAR. I bet it will get some work done. This JD 490 is sitting in my yard now. It belongs to a friend of mine. The crankshaft broke in two while he was digging up a bunch of stumps for me. Waiting for another engine as soon as he can afford one. It has a big ole' thumb on it.



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carvel minne farmer

12-08-2017 13:37:55




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 Re: Ford Industrial 19-105 FEL in reply to Hdonly, 12-07-2017 04:53:33  
Hdonly here's a couple of pics of my yanmar b-6 excavator with thumb we usually get 3 or 4 good windstorms a year up here and with the rotten old poplar and willow trees usually have a mess of broken trees to clean up, the hoe with that thumb make short work of it, then pull out the stumps and build a burn pile for burning.

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Hdonly

12-08-2017 07:26:09




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 Re: Ford Industrial 19-105 FEL in reply to Hdonly, 12-07-2017 04:53:33  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see It's as handy as the thumb on your hand. You can pick up many this with it that you wouldn't even think about if you don't have it. Just have to be careful on some things so you don't break them. Mine isn't hydraulick yet, but soon will be. I have all the parts to convert it, just too many projects going on.

"You Can't Escape the Claw"

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carvel minne farmer

12-08-2017 07:03:44




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 Re: Ford Industrial 19-105 FEL in reply to Hdonly, 12-07-2017 04:53:33  
Hdonly looking at your pics I see you have a hydraulic thumb on your backhoe, I have a yanmar b-6 excavator on rubber tracks with an offsetting boom and hydraulic thumb on it and that thumb is so handy for a 100 different jobs! clearing out trees and brush, old stumps, moving stuff just clamp the thumb down and it's gone. I would never buy a hoe with out it.



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Hdonly

12-07-2017 21:33:12




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 Re: Ford Industrial 19-105 FEL in reply to Hdonly, 12-07-2017 04:53:33  
Here is a very similar setup on a Jubilee, and basically like what I will end up with.



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Hdonly

12-07-2017 21:18:55




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 Re: Ford Industrial 19-105 FEL in reply to Hdonly, 12-07-2017 04:53:33  
I feel that it is going to balance out well with my small backhoe. It's not a machine that will see a lot of really heavy or everyday use, but it will be mighty handy around my little 10acre play farm. And it's all sand here and no rocks. If you find a rock here, some body brought it here. Not like dealing in real dirt. There is a big difference. Plus, I am very easy on my equipment. This is a budget dirt tractor build as I just don't need a full size backhoe/loader or the expense of one. It has the 1/3 cubic yard bucket on it.

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carvel minne farmer

12-07-2017 20:33:04




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 Re: Ford Industrial 19-105 FEL in reply to Hdonly, 12-07-2017 04:53:33  
and with your 3pt. backhoe as a counter weight it should balance out.



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carvel minne farmer

12-07-2017 20:28:30




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 Re: Ford Industrial 19-105 FEL in reply to Hdonly, 12-07-2017 04:53:33  
Hdonly that loader is one heavy duty built loader as was typical of equipment built in the 50's and 60's (and the main reason it's still around and not melted down for a new Toyota) being designed for the 8n to the 800 as your brochure shows, there's no reason your jubilee shouldn't be able to handle it.



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Hdonly

12-07-2017 12:51:52




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 Re: Ford Industrial 19-105 FEL in reply to Hdonly, 12-07-2017 04:53:33  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see Thanks for the offer on the instructions, I found a manual for the loader in a .pdf file.



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Kirk-NJ

12-07-2017 11:29:09




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 Re: Ford Industrial 19-105 FEL in reply to Hdonly, 12-07-2017 04:53:33  
Had the 703 on my 640. Smaller bucket. No power steering but you get use to strong arm steering. You'll need some sort of counter weight.

Kirk



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Hdonly

12-07-2017 08:01:28




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 Re: Ford Industrial 19-105 FEL in reply to Hdonly, 12-07-2017 04:53:33  
Auuugh. I give up.



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Andy Wickiser

12-07-2017 09:18:30




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 Re: Ford Industrial 19-105 FEL in reply to Hdonly, 12-07-2017 08:01:28  
Just for moral support - you are correct, the 19-105 was designed for and used for Ford tractors from the 8N through including the NAA and 600. It had a long production run, approximately 1950 through 1958. The 19-105 is in the 703 loader series and is the model with single-
acting lift cylinders. The 19-97, which I have mounted on a Ford 840, has double-acting lift cylinders. For those who think the 19-105 is big and heavy below is a picture comparing the 19-97 with a modern TLB loader. BTY I have the assembly instructions if you need any of that.

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fredharts

12-07-2017 07:58:38




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 Re: Ford Industrial 19-105 FEL in reply to Hdonly, 12-07-2017 04:53:33  
That looks real heavy for a Jubliee. i wouldn't ever really want to use an 8N or Jubilee as a loader tractor personally.



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Hdonly

12-07-2017 07:57:29




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Read the brochure pictures I posted. It was designed for an NAA. I also have a 192cu. industrial engine in my Jubilee. My main concern is taking it easy on my rear axle with the extra horsepower.



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carvel minne farmer

12-07-2017 07:51:41




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 Re: Ford Industrial 19-105 FEL in reply to Hdonly, 12-07-2017 04:53:33  
Hdonly that loader looks like it was designed for at least a 75 or 100 hp. tractor, as deltared said you may not have enough weight or hp. for a loader that size? if you have the make and model # maybe look it up and see what size tractor it's rated for.



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Hdonly

12-07-2017 07:44:36




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 Re: Ford Industrial 19-105 FEL in reply to Hdonly, 12-07-2017 04:53:33  
Designed for NAA, 600 and 800 tractors. I have a small 3-point backhoe on the rear that weighs in at about 1,000 lbs.





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DeltaRed

12-07-2017 07:30:28




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 Re: Ford Industrial 19-105 FEL in reply to Hdonly, 12-07-2017 04:53:33  
Looks like a heavy loader,especially for a small tractor. Better load the rear tires and hang a big heavy wt from the 3 point.



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