Ferguson 9B0-20 chisel plow

I acquired this implement yesterday from a used dealer here locally. It appears to be complete but worn. It only has 7 shanks not the 9 that the nameplate calls out. Does anybody have a parts manual or source for one and also a parts source. T/Y you in advance for any and all info.
 
First off Ferguson called them a tiller, not a chisel plow and the chisel plow name was not yet aroung when that was first made for the 23 horse 9N tractor. It was also made as a 7 shank version for tougher soil. The 9 shank is only good for very soft sandy soil on the N series tractors. They cannot even handle a 7 shank size in normal soil. I have the 9 shank version and it made a load on my 52 horse 4000 tractor with the 38" rear wheels. And do not try to dig over 6" deep in average soil as they will not handle it.In fall working bean stubble for spring ready tillage for an oat crop about 5" all you would want. Wheat stubble in any soil forget it. But that lighter soil in the bean stubble did a nice job. That was on a rented farm with easier working soil than I had here at home. I have no idea where you would find extra shanks. To put sweeps on and use as a finnishing tool as in field cultivator would work ground nice. Hope you are not counting on it for primary tillage as you will be very dissapointed in it for that. have had mine for 35+? years now and not used anymore.
 
Hi Leroy -
Thanks for the info. My plans are to use it to level up the ground in a hay field here in southern MS. More to scratch up and get better penetration for fertilizer and water.
 
There are a few clones of it made to this day. Fred Cain comes to mind. I do not know if dimensions of the shank assemblies match up (Ferguson and Dearborn back when they were new looked similar but were just a little bit different so as not to interchange) but it's worth a try.
 
Hi Tim - Hi Leroy
I think I know the answer to my question, but would like you fellows to confirm for me. The implement I picked up has 7 tines and not 9 as I stated earlier. It has 4 double spring tines on the front row. It has 3 SINGLE spring tines on the back row. I am assuming that this is a combination of two different tillers. The back row was probably originally 5 double spring tines. Any thoughts on who used single springs on their tillers would be appreciated. Tim, I looked at some Fred Cain images and it does look very similar. I have ordered a spacer from a MF dealer ( 663011M1 ) to compare to mine because this part (there are 2 to a tine)is badly worn. Thanks again for your time and info.
Gary
 
Ferguson never used single springs. So does sound like a combination somebody made. With what I have no idea.
 
Henry made the row crop cultivators 1/4" off the measurements of the Ferguson to get around the patent that Harry had on the cultivator. Never saw a Dearborn tiller, just pictures. And never even saw a picture of the Fred Cain unit so know nothing about them. I believe every one of those Ferguson tillers around that I have seen were sold before the split of Harry and Henry so between 1939 and 1947.
 
Not to hijack the thread but does anyone know where to get replacement springs for the 9bo-20 tiller. There is one for sale locally for $300 that's in okay shape but I'm worried about finding replacement springs if needed. Seller says its in good working condition but is pretty heavily rusted. Been lurking around the net looking for info, people have given suggestions but can't find a definite answer yet..
Thanks,TN
 
Email sent.
I have one of these. It was actually call All-Purpose cultivator. Send me your email address when you get my email and I can make you up a copy of the other manual. I used mine for small patches of deer food plots. It roughs up the ground enough then broadcast seed. Have also used it in half acre garden and to reseed patches of lawn. They were built by Pittsburgh Steel for ferguson and the early ones had both tags on them. After the ford/ferguson split they carried the Dearborn name built to the same specs. I have had both and they are a nice tool to have. You can change the points out for spades for garden cultivation.

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I've bought some from Mary in Ohio. She runs ads in the ad section sometimes for ford ferguson and dearborn stuff.

Kirk
 
If you look at my photo of the back row, springs underneath, if this is like yours then spring should be on both sides. If spring is only on one side it is likely it was broke or taken off for some reason?
 
If you take a parts book for both the Ferguson and Dearborn and lay them page to page you will see there is a lot of difference in the parts. And they were made by Sherman and not Pitsburg.
 
Leroy,
I have looked at both the BO-20 and 10-95 parts manual and yes they are not exactly the same. The frame in the early unit is connected for the front of the frame to the back with three pieces instead of one like on the later dearborn unit and there are a little differences in the shank but they are basically the same. Sure maybe the later Dearborn was designed a little better.
As far as the implements go ferguson had different companies building implements for them. The sherman bros had there hand in a lot of it. The implements that were built, especially during the early years, Had the manufactures label and the ferguson label. Just like my ferguson A-LO-19 cordwood saw was actually built by AM Dillinger in Lancaster Pa.
 
Kirk, You are talking about a friend of Mine. Slowing down the business as Junior, her husband just cannot do what he used to do as he is in his 80's now.
 
Kirk, one thing the is exactly the same under both names is the rear mount mower that was made by Detroit Harvestor for both companys, the only thing different was color of paint and just the second tag. I have 3 of them here plus a bit later Dearborn that was not sold under the Ferguson name.
 
I think your only chance except a parts machine is find a spring shop that can make them.
 
Kirk, in the later books they might have been called that but not in the books that came with a new tractor in early 44.
 
Leroy,
Maybe in 1944 they were calling something different but in 1940 they called it All-Purpose Cultivator. Here is the cover shot from my 1940 manual. I bought the 1940 9n from original owner. It came with the cultivator and one bottom plow which was purchased with the tractor.

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(quoted from post at 04:09:17 11/22/17) Leroy,
Maybe in 1944 they were calling something different but in 1940 they called it All-Purpose Cultivator. Here is the cover shot from my 1940 manual. I bought the 1940 9n from original owner. It came with the cultivator and one bottom plow which was purchased with the tractor.

&lt;a href="https://imgur.com/nA5KNJ8"&gt;&lt;img src="https://i.imgur.com/nA5KNJ8h.jpg" title="source: imgur.com" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; I have all original manuals and paperwork including the bill of sale for this tractor from the original owner, Who is still alive today.
Hi Tim -
Would it be possible to get a copy of Cultivator manual from you? I would gladly cover any expenses you incur.
Gary Sanders
 

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