Different IH Wagon Gear

Jim R

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I have recently come across an IH, McCormick Wagon gear that is different than I have seen before. This wagon gear instead of having the King Pin / Tie Rod setup on the front end, it has a center pivot plate just like a fifth wheel setup where the whole front end pivots and consequently will turn very sharp! Can anyone out there tell me what model wagon gear this is and what, specifically they were built for?? Thanks for any input!
 
I'm not sure what the number is, but i remember seeing them in the old buyers guide,my oldest guide is a 1979,and they just talk about the 300 series gears.I have no idea what they were intended for, other than they use to say a rocking bolster was available.
 
Do not know the model but its best following hay rack we have ever had, worked great behind baler and could be backed into anywhere by using the bobcat.

Joe
 
They seem to have been popular under cotton wagons back in the day. I guess they towed to the gin faster? I've only seen 3 fifth wheel steer wagons in this area ever and all had flat decks on them.
 
I build parade wagons as a hobby and a few years ago I built one on a gear as you describe. I don't know the brand name of the gear but it had a fifth wheel steering system and the entire front axle turned. The bolster on top of the axle had a center pivot on the axle and I was able to keep the bolster from turning with the axle by bolting angle iron onto the main beams vertically in front of and in back of the bolster. That kept the wagon box isolated from the turning axle.
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There used to be quite a few around here. The guys had a tendency to turn too short and dump the load. Probably why they went out of style in the late 1950's/ early 1960's.
 
Part of the reason is the same as with the wood wleel wagonf when used with horses. That is every little bumo the wheel will want to wip the front of the toung sideways and realy hit the horses necks hard. An auto guide will not do that.That is why the Amish that use horses DO NOT WANT a fifth wheel style wagon. Also hooking up a fifth wheel it is hard to move that toung even a eight of an inch to get the hitch pin in. And I have used a bunch of the fifth wheel or bolster guide as we called them in my farming days and still have several, some with Ford Car front axles under them.Or the Ford pickup that was a drop axle with 2 springs instead of one cross spring like the car had.
 

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