joe201

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I've got a nh 275 baler and the baler is doing great except some of the bales the ends is a little shorter on the right side causing the bales to be misshaped and the right string to come loose. You don't notice it when first baled but after the bales set in the barn for a month or 2 and you start loading them the right string tries to slide off and the bales bend when you pick them up.I'm looking at my manual and says to loosen the drive pin bolt and move it towards the rear to decrease feeder penetration.My question is how much do you move it and do you have to re time the baler. Has anyone had this problem before?
I will post pictures of the bales when it quits raining we got about 1 1/2 here in southern Illinois today. Thanks for your thoughts and advice.
Joe C
 
Did you try checking bale string tension. If one side is tighter(or jams up on the chute on that side more) it misshapes the bale by pulling the hay on one side more. Then as the bale compresses and settles, during storage, the strings become loose(more so if laid on side with stings up/down, compared to strings around sides) causing the strings to slip.
 
You are not filling that side of the chamber enough, either due to where you are feeding the windrow on the pickup or you may need to adjust your feeding system a bit, I have also had to install bale wedges to correct this before
cnt
 
You can adjust the feeder for less penetration... but I'd probably start by crowding the baler a bit harder if you're not really pushing it... or try feeding it more to the outside of the pickup. Usually the opposite problem exists where the left side of the bale is short...

Rod
 
Not enough hay getting to the right side of your bale chamber.

If you have aluminum feeder tines, they should be around 13-3/4 inches long. They wear down over time several inches. If they are short. You'll never get anything but a banana bale. If the times are OK, move them opposite the direction you'd think to put more hay to the side of the bale chamber. You need hay to the right, move your tines to the left.

Check your haydog springs. If they are weak or broke, that can cause banana bales.

Check the gap between your plunger and stationary knife. Should be around 1/32 of an inch. A gap will allow the plunger to pull in more hay to one side. Make sure the plunger knife is sharp and the stationary has a square shoulder.

Feed the baler pickup on the bale chamber side.

Generally, the problem with NH balers is not enough hay to the left. Left is standing behind the baler and looking towards the tractor. Is your problem on the left or right from that prospective?

Good luck,
Bill
 
It does but does not fix the worthless over thought out knotters, red and gray balers will fix all problems!
 
I wasn't aware that a new Holland could make a square bale. I thought they all were banana shaped. That's why we never liked them as well as the fact some nh balers didn't like to bale alfalfa on the tough side to save the leaves. Dad always said we go out to bale when the nh guys quit for the evening.
 
My neighbor used my 570 while his 336 deere was broke and called me and said bales were warped. I ask how fast you going? First gear in the 4320. Try third I said. Never heard back till he returned the baler and said it worked fine after he sped up. The trick is to keep it full!
 
New Hollands like to be FULL when working.rake two together,or drive faster.You don't need to "retime" the machine when you move the tines.As was said,those aluminum tines get worn and will not feed enough hay.One thing I did was to put an extra set of tines in my old 283.Really helped the feed in all kinds of hay. Bale quality/shape was better too.
 
Another thing that helps is to keep the feed consistent. count the strokes per bale. shift up or down to accomplish this.Back when I ran a NH 282/283/425 I would aim for 20 spb.Shift up at 23/25;down at 15/18 spb.vary the throttle a bit helps too.However,my 'new' CIH inline baler doesn't care. It makes the same perfect bale every time,regardless of how much or little hay is fed into it.
 
Pretty clear you don't know beans about a New Holland baler, much less how to adjust or run them.
 
reRead what Bill VA posted. Start with the feeder tines....that is the easiest, if that doesn't work go to the next step.
I think if the feeder is properly adjusted you will get pretty decent bales, at any speed, strokes or windrow. Perfect bales may require those other considerations.
 
That's what solved our problem. Went through two Nh balers that couldn't make an actual square bale. We had the dealer mechanic and even a factory rep out to work on them. Problem was we use a bale wagon to pick them up and bale wagons demand nice square tight bales. Always fought the bales that came out of a NH no matter if it was our baler or any of the neighbor's that ran NH. The local JD dealer brought out a new 347 one summer to us. Hooked it up to the 4020, never touched any adjustments, and just basically took off. Did nothing but punch out bricks right from the get go. Now we are only on our 2nd JD baler a 348. Must be a decent design since it's been on the market since the 70s.
 

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