new Holland 411 discbine.

Looking at a new Holland 411 discbine and just looking for feed back from people who've owned them. The rollers appear to be like new. overall condition looks good. Asking $3500. Just making sure it's not to good to be true. What problems should I look for? Thanks for any help.

I think that was a 411 that I had. That was back in 94. Is the one you're looking at that old? This one was two years old when I bought it. Somebody had traded it in on a 13 foot Hesston hydraswing.
That thing was junk from day 1. It was making a heck of a noise. I called the dealer,he said bring it back. There was a bearing out in the shaft that went from the gearbox to the cutterbar. They had it for 10 days,no charge,said they should have checked it over better before they sold it. I used it five days and all but the first rotor stopped turning. Ground up some gears in it. I told them I needed something to cut hay. They told me to take a new Hesston conventional for the same price.
That thing turned me off to discbines until I bought a new Kuhn two years ago.

I mowed with one for nine years, sold it to a neighbor two years ago, and he has had no problems with it. The only problems that I had were nicks in the rolls from mowing chuck holes, and shearing off some bolts to the far end disc when I mowed a well casing. For the first six years it had a tendency to dig in a little at the far end, but while repairing the damage from hitting the well casing I found that it was because the dealer that I bought it from had put it together wrong from some damage inflicted by the P.O. I will offer that if you get it, keep after the bolts that hold both the knives and the lifters, because changing either can be a job once they have been in there for a few hundred acres and get all rounded off. You will want to be sure that you get it set up right. My buddy's doesn't mow close at the far end because it is too light, and he says that it is how the dealer delivered it so it must be right. Also you need to have correct roll clearance and pressure or you will not have adequate conditioning or you will wear your rolls. I just remembered: check the right side header lift arm alignment. with age it tends to wear/bend off to the right which results in slack on the left while it is mowing, and eventually the left side will pull out and the left end knives will be mowing your frame.

Yeah the one I'm looking at is a 91 model. Thank you for your input!

Sounds like you have pretty good luck with it! Well I appreciate your
response. Those things will be good to know if I end up getting it.
Thank you

Run away from that machine. I had two different ones and my local NH dealer finally told me to get rid of them no matter what color I bought. They are good machines untill you have to work on them.We had a bearing failure on an idler in the cutterbar and ruined about 8 gears.The parts are the most overpriced things NH has because it was not a NH cutterbar. I found used parts at a salvage yard and sold the machine after fixing. My local dealer is the biggest NH dealer in WI and he will not trade a 411 or 415 in. The turtles are over three times as expensive as a 1411 and the crop lifters are terribly overpriced. The only thing a 411 and a 1411 have in common is the paint.We replaced ours with a used Deere 920 with rolls that cost us $4000. Tom

I had a 411 for 10 or 12 years. Bought it used. It was 1000 PTO and a cutting fool. Always something needed repaired on it. When it wasn't down for repairs it would really cut hay.

Sounds like you have pretty good luck with it! Well I appreciate your
response. Those things will be good to know if I end up getting it.
Thank you

The NH 411 disk mower/conditioner is getting old. They can have many mechanical troubles. I would NOT buy one!!! I have seen too many major failures on they to ever buy one. If your wanting a NH then go up to the NH 1411, it is a much better machine.