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Help identifying Corn Planter

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Tim Steele

02-17-2017 08:21:22

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The wheels are there as well just not currently installed.

Thanks in advance.

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ztr mowers

02-18-2017 05:55:22

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 Re: Help identifying Corn Planter in reply to Tim Steele, 02-17-2017 08:21:22  
thats not a corn planter!!!! it is small brillion brand, small seed seeder, or drill some call them.

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Traditional Farmer

02-17-2017 23:32:34

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 Re: Help identifying Corn Planter in reply to Tim Steele, 02-17-2017 08:21:22  
Even if the seeder part can't be fixed the cultipacker part is worth a good bit.

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Michael Jackson

02-17-2017 20:16:56

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 Re: Help identifying Corn Planter in reply to Tim Steele, 02-17-2017 08:21:22  
Tim, I have an older 8 foot that I am rebuilding to use. I would be interested in looking at yours if you decide to sell it. There may be many parts I can use.

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Tim Steele

02-17-2017 09:43:10

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 Re: Help identifying Corn Planter in reply to Tim Steele, 02-17-2017 08:21:22  
So after reading your reply the seeder needs a lot of work. I guess.maybe someone will need parts?

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02-17-2017 10:48:52

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 Re: Help identifying Corn Planter in reply to Tim Steele, 02-17-2017 09:43:10  
In the bottoms of those seed hoppers are little spinning shaft/cups/picks/flutes/ depends how it's set up but they carefully pick small seeds and drop them out the bottom. They need to be clean and the shafts turn easily. Any pitting rust or rough bearings or frozen bearings decreases the accuracy and ease of use, or could result in broken parts if the rust isnt knocked loose.

That green thing on the side is the mechanical lift I would guess? It has a chain or maybe gears inside, if it sat in frozen water it might have sometching busted which is real hard to find parts for, or at least rusty and stiff and might need to be taken apart, greased, and put back together.

The wheels would run that green thing as well as the seeder shaft, so I don't know With rust anything working 'as it sits' or that for sure all parts are there. With the wheels removed - why, was something broken and it never got fixed? How many of the delicate parts and bearing are in the dirt below?

The seed hoppers again, if they have a hole rusted in them from all this time in the open, the small seeds run out. Not good, need to clean them out and inspect carefully.

Somewhere in the dirt, with the wheels removed, are a few, or maybe many, parts that spin and turn and need to run right. I'd be concerned that they can grease up and work smoothly.

Those cast iron rollers in back have value, and shouldn't be hurt. That will be a worthwhile part even if everything else were totally shot.

The seed hopper covers aren't attached. I want them to fit and work smoothly, if some of the brackets are messed up or they don't fit square it lets dirt and water in, lets seed blow or bounce out. With these small clover, alfalfa seeds, they are very spendy, I can't afford to be 'close' I need a seeder like this to work very well and accurate and smooth. Can spend $400 for a 60# bag of alfalfa, the tool needs to preform just right or it is costing more than it's worth real quick!

These are the things I look at on this implement, and others you are showing too.

The stuff has value when it's all there, all together, has been greased, and can see that it was operated in the past 12 months and is working. Then I can take it home and use it.

When it's a rusty pile of pieces and 'maybe all there but I can't spin or test anything' then it is really just a pile of iron and worth scrap iron plus 10%. This item has some value in those cast iron wheels; but if I buy it just for parts then I'm going to need or sell 2-5 of them and sit on the rest for a long time before selling a few more, my money is tied up... So it would be worth whatever 2-5 wheels bring me, no more. Salvage value. Salvage value is always about scrap iron plus 10%......

Most farmers pull old broken equipment out into the tree line or the pasture and let it set there because it's not working any more. So I see what you have and I'm going to assume it's all broken down and sitting there abandoned for a reason. Something is busted or worn out past useable.... Maybe the stuff was good shape and dad just couldn't keep up with it and with illness and all it got left out in the open, but I don't know that, as a buyer in going to assume it's old busted wrecked stuff. Just how buyers are gonna view this.....

I do not know if you plan to work on these items and bring them back to running shape if possible, or are you planning to sell them As is where is, nothing done to them at all.

Since you are not real familiar with farm machinery, it might be difficult for you to bring them back from the dead, as they are. I don't know?

As with military equipment, there is a big difference between a pile of rusty parts, and an accurate, reliable machine made of those parts.

The value of these items will reflect their status.

Everything is in pieces or sitting deep in the dirt with the bearings very suspect.....

So, the question is which way are you selling them, as is or are you gonna fix up and assemble and make smooth working what you can?

That is why it is real hard to put a value on your items. We can sure help you identify. But value? Yikes that is a dart throwing game, mostly you have a pile of iron, with a little time and effort you might have some nicer items but they are still old and worn and depends on the local market if that stuff is still used there..... It's very hard to guess value depending on how you are going to sell them.

For my money that seeder would have been the gem, if it is all there and cleans up well that would be the most valuable thing you have. But it also is just iron right now, the way it sits so much a lb plus 10%...... The offset disk could have some real value too, if the bearings are all good, the lift works, etc,

The JD disk I wouldn't spend much time on, is what it is.

The IHC drill and the yellow thing depends how bad all the many bearing are, worth fixing if they just need grease and effort, not so much if they are froze up solid and needs parts.


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02-18-2017 08:15:17

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 Re: Help identifying Corn Planter in reply to Paul, 02-17-2017 10:48:52  
No... the wheels are strictly for transport. The mechanism is run by a chain on the shaft of the front roller. The chain, driven sprocket, and idler are inside the green casting.

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02-18-2017 18:12:24

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 Re: Help identifying Corn Planter in reply to fordfarmer, 02-18-2017 08:15:17  
Ah, ok. thanks.


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Tim Steele

02-17-2017 09:40:34

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 Re: Help identifying Corn Planter in reply to Tim Steele, 02-17-2017 08:21:22  
I left the family farm in 1976 when I was 18 and spent 25 years in the USAF. I was an F4 and F15 Crew Chief. I cross trained out of aircraft maintenance in 1994 and became a C130 Flight Engineer. In 1997 I laterally retrained to MC-130P Special Operations Flight Engineer for the remainder of my career. After the Air Force I went to college on the GI bill at Okaloosa Walton College and graduated the Florida State Correctional Officer Academy. Then I worked for Florida DOC in a maximum security prison for 8 years. Daddy was farming still in his 80s and needed help so I retired from DOC and moved home in 08 to help him. Alzheimers and cancer took him from us in 2012 and I took over the family farm. I also work full time for the United States Postal Inspection Service as a Watch Desk Dispatcher in Dulles, VA at the National Law Enforcement Control Center.

Thats where I was while Daddy was farming. Thanks for the education on the seeder or drill.

It is all there. I assume it will work if cleaned up.

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02-17-2017 16:00:12

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 Re: Help identifying Corn Planter in reply to Tim Steele, 02-17-2017 09:40:34  
Thank you for your service.

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02-17-2017 08:58:31

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 Re: Help identifying Corn Planter in reply to Tim Steele, 02-17-2017 08:21:22  
Boy, if that small seed drill had been maintained, it would be worth something. A rig like that ready to go in the field in 5 minutes can sell for $500-15000 pretty easy. Great for seeding down small grains, grasses, clovers, alfalfas. About the only thing it doesn't plant is corn.....

All in pieces and dirt rusting in the boxes, well that is a project and a buyer doesn't know for sure if it's all there, need to break rusty stuff free replace chains and so on, who knows if parts are still available... it is just kind of a pile of iron, sadly. I'd only buy it if it were really cheap and I could take a risk on it.

That's a shame, that shoulda been shed kept and all together, it was valuable at one time.


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02-17-2017 09:02:13

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 Re: Help identifying Corn Planter in reply to Paul, 02-17-2017 08:58:31  
I meant to say, $500-1500 easily. Newer models can get close to or over $5000 on the right sale.

Sorry for the extra zero tho on my message, that was a typo! They could cost that new from a dealer tho.....

That's a shame it has rusted away like that. The seeding flutes and lift mechanism is all fussy parts, and they get scary to try to get working again when they are that far damaged.


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02-17-2017 09:08:59

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 Re: Help identifying Corn Planter in reply to Paul, 02-17-2017 09:02:13  
You're right about the new price... my 12' was around $13k, and that was probably ten years ago, already.

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02-17-2017 08:30:43

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 Re: Help identifying Corn Planter in reply to Tim Steele, 02-17-2017 08:21:22  
That's a Brillion Sure Stand seeder/cultipacker. It's for grass/hay seed. It will NOT plant corn. As far as value...that varies by region, as well as condition. The seed boxes look rough on this one (common). Around here, it would probably bring $500 - $1000. (kinda hard to say how good or bad it is from one picture...also, is it an 8' or 10'?) Appears that the hitch brace may be missing from the far side. Replace it, if it is missing.

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Adirondack case guy

02-17-2017 08:30:42

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 Re: Help identifying Corn Planter in reply to Tim Steele, 02-17-2017 08:21:22  
That is not a corn planter!! It is a Brillion Sure Stand grass and alfalfa seeder., as it says on the castings. If your father was a farmer, where were you when he was farming???

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02-17-2017 10:36:41

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 Re: Help identifying Corn Planter in reply to Adirondack case guy, 02-17-2017 08:30:42  
He told ya Case guy/ He was flocking away his life so as to make sure he could retire in good shape when the time come. Dad, hes on his own.

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