Anyone know anything at all about tubeline baleliners?

rockyridgefarm · Dec 17, 2016

Hey all,

I have an opportunity to buy a Tubeline Baleliner, and was wondering if anyone had any knowledge of them. I hired a local guy last summer to linewrap bales for me & will again this summer if I don't buy this rig. He used a Tubeline 5500 and it did a good job. He charged me a buck a bale to wrap, but he has a long list of customers, so it's sometimes hard to get him in in a timely manner.

This one is a TL7800TX2. It's a combination self-loading trailer/bale line wrapper. I can't find any opinions on them anywhere, and can't afford to buy it of they were a POS.

Bruce from Can. · Dec 17, 2016

While I know nothing about the wrapper in the picture , if I could have hired
someone to wrap my hay for a buck a bale, plus the plastic of course , I would have
never bought a wrapper. That seems like a excellent price. Although I do understand
what you feel about getting your bales wrapped as quickly as possible.
Features most want on inline wrappers now are , auto wrapping , remote steering ,
so the fella on the tractor can stuff the bales into the wrapper , and never leave
the loader tractor seat. Older wrappers that I have seen, required a operator for
both the loader , and the wrapper itself.

495man · Dec 17, 2016

I had to look this up. Looks like a neat concept. Watched their video. Worked completely different than I thought.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqB-Zjcg2NA

Looks like the perfect thing for one man show, no on and off the tractor, no hitching/unhitching bale wagons. No congestion in bale yard to unload.

Video wasn't clear how the wrapper works interms of starting/stopping. I assume it's got Honda power and remote start/stop.

I ran full manual tube line style machines by myself, on and off tractor each bale, hitch and unhitch wagon in yard and field, this would be a dream compared to that.

Main issue I see is it only holds 8 bales if you have a long haul, by that might be mitigated by saved loading/unloading time. Other is the mechanical aspect. looks like it's got lots of moving parts and hyd lines.....

rockyridgefarm · Dec 17, 2016

Actually, i think it's all run off the tractor hydraulics. It wouldn't make sense to put an engine on the wrapper.

Frankly, I doubt I'll get it bought. These are something like $54,000 new, and I'll bet they want to get over $40,000 for a used one. It is on an auction, so one never knows.

495man · Dec 17, 2016

I see it recieves power through the trailer part from the tractor now, not sure on the connection type.

tomturkey · Dec 19, 2016

for all those who seem to know, I have a few questions. As a general rule what is the wasteage/ spoilage on a net wrapped bale setting outside? Does wrapping like this allow you to bale at a higher percentage of moisture? I know this last question is a little hard to figure as the per ton price of hay differs so much with quality content. How many bales would it take to pay off this machine/ actually get a payback, where the hay you save is actually worth dollars to you as feed or profits in your pocket. All questions from someone that does 500 small squares a year and just curious. gobble

495man · Dec 19, 2016

I looked briefly at individual wrapped bales here, was told $4 in plastic a bale, plus buying machine and paying to run it.

You can bale at higher moisture, but need to wrap right away, so there is a time demand where hay can be left in the field.

I'd say zero waste on a properly wrapped bale. Store most inside or tarped here, only loose a small amount on the bales that sit on the ground.

I've bought a few wrapped bales, you have the mess of the plastic and twine to deal with, but no storage building needed and easy as grabbing a bale and cutting it open to feed.

Feed quality is supposed to be better with wrapped, but I haven't directly compared.

Kickinbull · Dec 21, 2016

$40K for wrapper, then a decent tractor to power. I am STO. I can buy a lot of good hay for that.

showcrop · Dec 22, 2016

(quoted from post at 10:01:26 12/19/16) for all those who seem to know, I have a few questions. As a general rule what is the wasteage/ spoilage on a net wrapped bale setting outside? Does wrapping like this allow you to bale at a higher percentage of moisture? I know this last question is a little hard to figure as the per ton price of hay differs so much with quality content. How many bales would it take to pay off this machine/ actually get a payback, where the hay you save is actually worth dollars to you as feed or profits in your pocket. All questions from someone that does 500 small squares a year and just curious. gobble

Tom, When you see wrapped bales it is pretty much never hay, but is instead haylage or baleage, which is the same as silage but in a different handling form. It is baled with enough moisture still in it so that it ferments or "ensiles". If you attempt to ensile grass that has dried down too much or was cut too late or not packed adequately, it will just rot, because of the oxygen in it. Baleage is kind of inbetween small squares and forage. Forage requires big machines, big power tractors and big dollar storage. So baleage is a good option for small to medium sized dairy farms or beef operations. I sell to horse people, and horses can't digest silage so the owners usually prefer small squares.

Anyone know anything at all about tubeline baleliners?

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