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300jk

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Finishing up work on my three point blower and need to guard pto shaft. Was at tractor supply a few days ago and they had what I need for around 90 dollars. Seemed like a lot of money for a plastic tube. I understand safety should be number 1 but it seemed overpriced. Have not gone to look at any dealers yet. Does anyone sell a cheaper alternative or should I just go pay what they want ? I will not skimp on safety and the shaft will be guarded before it ever gets hooked to a tractor. Have heard too many horror stories.
 
Not a bad idea ! I was also thinking of larger electrical conduit. Thanks for the input.
 
Most every machine I have never did have a PTO shield on them even when new. I learn a long time ago the only true safety is what is between ones ears and NO safety device is going to save you 100% of the time other then the one between your ears
 
I understand what you are saying and you are right. Can't be a bad thing to make something safer can it ? All it takes is a split second. Being in a hurry or not thinking. Being a blower and with me wearing extra clothes If i do have a mental slip I would rather not have an accident. Many people I know have lost a lot to these types of accidents. Dad is missing his pointer finger on his right hand because he was brushing snow off the husking rolls of a corn picker with gloves on, my uncle was breaking up a blockage on a self unloading silage wagon and somehow got tangled up in the front beaters . He spent over a year in the hospital and is almost a foot shorter than my other uncles. A girl I went to school with got her hair caught in a pto shaft and ripped all the skin off the top of her head. She can't and will never have hair again. She has worn a hat for the last 20 plus years. Another guy not too far from here is the foreman at a gravel pit. Been around the stuff his whole life. He now missing his left arm because his clothes got caught in a conveyor. I am just trying to be extra safe. I know it is mostly common sense that causes accidents but things can happen so quick. You can't tell me you have never took any chances and things may not have gone your way. I am just trying to make it safer is all. Why take a chance if I don't have to ?
 
Reason I say this is because I have seen many people hurt even with PTO shields in place and other such guards in place and still get hurt by the spinning shield which did not slip when it should have etc. I learned at a very young age that NO SAFETY device is going to keep you from getting hurt so I NEVER depend on them be it on a tractor or gun it on a fire arm etc etc etc. ONE should never climb off a machine with the PTO going and one should never treat a fire arm like it is not loaded so also never point a fire arm at any thing you do not mind getting shot
 
I do understand where you are coming from. You are correct. You can't trust safety equipment and be careless. I am just trying to be safer is all. Just making things better. I don't see anything wrong with that. Older equipment didn't have a plastic shield or anything else but if I can put one on what does it hurt ?
 
Is it making you safer or do you feel safe and might take chances you wouldn't if you didn't feel so safe.
 
I got one about 5-6 years ago for a PTO drive line, and it was around $75 from a local implement dealer. So I imagine what you have found is about what they cost nowadays. Depending on what sort of drive line it is, you may need a pair of plastic adapter pieces to make the shielding fit the power shaft- just something to think about.
Good luck, and stay safe!
Lon
 
Well I'd say never hurts but then on the other hand just another thing to cause problems also
 
(quoted from post at 16:06:58 12/11/16) Most every machine I have never did have a PTO shield on them even when new. I learn a long time ago the only true safety is what is between ones ears and NO safety device is going to save you 100% of the time other then the one between your ears
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And that is exactly what 98% of all the people that did get hurt by PTO shafts said before they got hurt.
 
I am guessing your comment isn't directed toward my post as it
came up. I am for safety. That's why I made the original post.
 
Yes I believe it will make it safer. Anything that will make it
better s a plus. I have been around farm equipment my whole
life and have run heavy equipment for 20 years. Many situations
I am in at work daily could kill someone if I do something
wrong. I know the difference between thinking I am safe and
being safe. All I asked is if anyone knew of a cheaper
alternative. Just being safer.
 
Call Baum Hydraulics in Omaha, likely they can fix you up for considerably less. (Do some digging, there's other sources out there, as well.)

Whatever you do, do it right, I'm gonna guess death by PTO is not swell!
 
I used corrugated pipe for my mid-mounted mower drive shaft.
Has little angular movement, so perfect flexibility is not necessary.
Works well for me.
 
Thanks for everyone's replies. I will look into some of the places you guys have mentioned. I do realize nothing is so to say fool proof safety without proper caution.
 
I, for one, realize you are going to do the PTO shaft right and as you asked, you want find one at a reasonable price. You're right, since it has to do with "safety", manufactures are so concerned about our safety they think they can charge a higher price for their piece of plastic that is over priced. That could be a good reason people get hurt with PTO shafts. If they were, say, $25. people wouldn't balk at paying a fair price, afterall, it's cheap but necessary plastic. He's not wanting to buy the whole PTO shaft, just the cover. Also, so others have said, you can still get hurt with a cover over the shaft. Those who mentioned using a piece of ribbed plastic pipe with success seems like a great idea. I wish they would show some pictures of their idea.
As has been mentioned in this site before, too much safety devices can cause people to become complacent and be more careless, thinking with all these safety devices installed, I can't get hurt. Then when they take things apart for repairs, they don't put the safety devices back on since it takes too long to get it off and then put it back on. I'm sure all of you have seen farming equipment where safety devices have been removed. Oh that would make OSHA mad.
I realize manufactures have to put out a product with all these safety devices to keep from getting sued if someone gets hurt.
My point is, if it has to do with safety, don't charge such a high price that people won't pay it and do without because the price is way too high.
I worked in a plant for over 40 years and saw all the OSHA required safety devices that took longer to remove than to replace a part. Regulations got worse every year and people still got hurt and always will.

Safety is a mindset pure and simple.
It's nice people are concerned about your safety.

Enough of my rant.

Dick
 
(quoted from post at 18:31:11 12/12/16) I, for one, realize you are going to do the PTO shaft right and as you asked, you want find one at a reasonable price. You're right, since it has to do with "safety", manufactures are so concerned about our safety they think they can charge a higher price for their piece of plastic that is over priced. That could be a good reason people get hurt with PTO shafts. If they were, say, $25. people wouldn't balk at paying a fair price, afterall, it's cheap but necessary plastic. He's not wanting to buy the whole PTO shaft, just the cover. Also, so others have said, you can still get hurt with a cover over the shaft. Those who mentioned using a piece of ribbed plastic pipe with success seems like a great idea. I wish they would show some pictures of their idea.
As has been mentioned in this site before, too much safety devices can cause people to become complacent and be more careless, thinking with all these safety devices installed, I can't get hurt. Then when they take things apart for repairs, they don't put the safety devices back on since it takes too long to get it off and then put it back on. I'm sure all of you have seen farming equipment where safety devices have been removed. Oh that would make OSHA mad.
I realize manufactures have to put out a product with all these safety devices to keep from getting sued if someone gets hurt.
My point is, if it has to do with safety, don't charge such a high price that people won't pay it and do without because the price is way too high.
I worked in a plant for over 40 years and saw all the OSHA required safety devices that took longer to remove than to replace a part. Regulations got worse every year and people still got hurt and always will.

Safety is a mindset pure and simple.
It's nice people are concerned about your safety.

Enough of my rant.

Dick
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Dick, since no equipment manufacturer produces shields themselves, but purchase them in quantity from the companies that make them, would you go to work for a shield manufacturer for half of your normal wage in order for them to be able to make them available for less?
 
I got a pto shield from AgriSupply for less than $40 for my bush hog. Here's one of several they have on their site: http://www.agrisupply.com/sl-comp-shield-series-bearings-eurocardan/p/36727/
 
If equipment manufactures buy the plastic shields in quanity I would imagine they are very inexpensive buying in bulk. Since they don't manufacture the guards and just install them, I would think they as well as the dealer would be able to sell the guards at a reasonable price, if they can buy them from the manufacturer of the equipment. After all, it's all about safety. I would feel bad if I sold a safety item for an inflated price that made it difficult for someone to afford and they were killed because they ran the machine without the guard. I realize it's the fault of the person who ran the machine without a guard, but I still think a piece of molded plastic for a safety device shouldn't cost over $50... I could be wrong.
Too bad Harbor Tools doesn't sell them.

Dick
 
So I will be in the minority but have any extra plastic piping laying around? I have bought use equipment that had that and I honesty never noticed until I looked really close. Joints aren't perfect but if you are looking to just keep the PTO shaft safe then I have seen it done. Again it wasn't the safest or OSHA approved but it didn't turn when the PTO shaft did.
 
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