Massey 3 square baler

Amonday

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I bought an old Massey 3 square baler and can not get the hooks or knotters to let go of the knots. It just keeps craming the knots on to the hooks and never completes the bale. The knotters seem to work fine, making a knot each time. Any suggestions on what could possibly be the problem. I'm brand new to balers, ido have to manuals, but cant seem to find the problem. Any suggestions or help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
 
Without seeing t up close I'd say
1 Bill Hook is galled and won't turn.
2 Tension on the Bill Hook is to tight.
3 The small cam wheel on the Bill Hook is either worn or missing.
4 Knotter cams might be worn.

Have someone roll it thru a cycle while you watch it.

Good Luck
 
Is everything rust free...the bill hooks should not have any rust on them, oil all moving parts and try cycling a bale through.!
 
I had a #12 once that would do that. Found the billhooks were grooved.After a good 'cleaning' with a file and polishing with
sandpaper,it worked good as new.
 

On the 124 I had the next bale would pull the knot off. If you stopped for the day with the knot still on the bill hook, it would be waiting for ylou the next time you baled. I may not completely understand the question So take this with a grain of salt.

KEH
 
Feed hay into the baler then trip the knotter and turn by hand, a little at a time. Better yet, have someone else turn while you watch. Do the bill hooks move freely? Do they open and close correctly? How hard is it to open the bill hook? Maybe try some PB Blaster of WD40 to help dissolve rust and dirt and free things up. Make sure the bill hook is clean and polished. If you are still having problems, adjust (loosen) the tension spring on the side of the knotter frame, but no more than 1/8 turn at a time. Very sensitive adjustment. Good luck and show us a picture!
 
(quoted from post at 18:32:01 05/27/16) Feed hay into the baler then trip the knotter and turn by hand, a little at a time. Better yet, have someone else turn while you watch. Do the bill hooks move freely? Do they open and close correctly? How hard is it to open the bill hook? Maybe try some PB Blaster of WD40 to help dissolve rust and dirt and free things up. Make sure the bill hook is clean and polished. If you are still having problems, adjust (loosen) the tension spring on the side of the knotter frame, but no more than 1/8 turn at a time. Very sensitive adjustment. Good luck and show us a picture!
Thanks to everyone for all the great advice, I really appreciate it.
How do I trip the knotter and turn it by hand? The manual said to trip the knotter clutch but it doesn't show me where this clutch is, could you help me with that? I will take some pics tomorrow morning to show how the knots just get tighter on the hooks and backing up and don't come off to complete the bale. Maybe if I can watch every move of the knotters I'll have a better idea of what it is doing, exactly.
 
(quoted from post at 18:25:43 05/26/16) I had a #12 once that would do that. Found the billhooks were grooved.After a good 'cleaning' with a file and polishing with
sandpaper,it worked good as new.
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Here's a pic of what we got. Does anyone see anything obviously wrong?
 
Make sure all of your springs are there, and in good shape. If any one of your springs breaks, it turns into a mess in a hurry. And if a spring is weak, that can cause issues as well. I went through the knotters in our 12 the last 2 years, and it ties much better now.

I replaced all of the steel rollers (some come with bearings in them, some don't), which means you also have to buy the rivets that hold them in place. Not a big deal, just take one side apart. Grind the peaned back side of the rivet off and use a punch to tap it out. Then reverse the procedure and use a ball peen hammer to peen the new rivet. The prices weren't too crazy if I remember right. I did some other work as well (flywheel bearings, shear bushings, and another needle bearing) and had around $400 invested in it. I also shined up some of the other parts, and replaced any bushing or bearing I could easily remove, without having to pull the whole assembly off the baler.

Donovan from Wisconsin
 

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