Haybine/Mower Conditioner

50 hp tractor is a match made in heaven for a 9 foot haybine. Plenty of power for hills and enough weight that a side hill won't push you around. On flat ground a 35hp could do the job but, you might have to go a bit slower , depend on the crop you are cutting. I have cut countless acres with my Case 730 pulling a 488 New Holland.
 
On hills definitely 50 , I mow with 185 allis and a 492 nh . Actually tried with an oliver 770 gas and she was a little light in some spots .
 
I ran a 9 foot Hesston PT10 with an Oliver 88 alright. I remember when the neighbors bought one of the first New Holland Haybines in the neighborhood,they ran that with a Farmall 400.
 
All depends on what MOCO you have or thinking about getting. I have a NH460 and my Oliver 77 which is 38HP plays with it. I have run an AC Moco behind an IH 340 and it handled it just fine. Big thing is look at the manual and see what the company that made it say you need. Like the manual says to run a NH850 round baler you need 55-75HP and I use one with an Oliver S88 and it does just fine and it is a 55HP tractor but the Farmall 450 I had would not handle the NH850
 
I used a Farmall H and now a 300 which has a bit more power and live PTO and hydraulics. The haybine is a NH 461. I have run it on some pretty good hills and apart from occasional trouble keeping the front end down in a couple of spots everything has been fine. I don't run more than 3rd gear and more often 2nd, and the hay is pretty light in a lot of areas. More hay or more speed would need more power.
Zach
 
Eventually looking to put up some brome on more or less flat ground one day. I see a few moco's for sale, but didn't know if my 43 hp Case 1190 would run a 9'. I've never seen one smaller than that, short of just a standard old sickle mower. A sickle mower will do the job, it'll just take more dry time, which is not a problem unless you're trying to beat the rain.
 
I used one with a 45hp Ford 960. Worked fine, I do better with the 85hp bigger Ford, but that's a little more than I would need.
 

40 PTO HP will do it.

I sized sickle bar mower conditioners back when I was mower shopping, 9' was the max for what I had to run it.
 
When the 488 nh came out people pulled them with 45 HP tractor on flat ground and got along. But in our southern Iowa hills you need something more substantial in front of 1. 55 HP with some weight works well in front of 1 here.
 
That case should be just fine. My Oliver 77 as I said just plays with the 9 footer I have. NH does make a 7 footer and if I remember right it is a 479
 

The 7 foot NH Haybine was a 477, 479 was a 9 foot and a very good machine.

KEH
 
That is why if you read what I posted IF I REMEMBER RIGHT since I was not 100% which one it was that was 7 foot.
 
If it is a warm summer day, that brome will be ready to bale before you get all around the field, Assuming it is 40 acres or so.
 
He wasn't belittling you Rich, he was just clarifying the mowers. He stated the facts while you made a wrong guess.
 
And how many times have I said I do not care what you say or think and I do not wnat to hear or see any of your posts. Where you not an officer so how many times does it take to be told leave me alone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Ours was a Case 555? I think, same as a Heston PT10 in 9' size and ran it with a 41 Farmall H at 27 Hp with no problems. Cannot remember if ran in second or third gear now as that was 35+ years ago. Never had reason to think about putting the 38 HP John Deere A on it.
 
Not familuar with your machine but I would think that is the style that lifts the complete machine, What we had just lifted the header so did not take much prtessure. When it was broke down just after we bought it dealer brought out a lonar that was like that, could not lift the machine.
 
The other main benefit to a moco besides crimpers is that they will put the hay in windrows vs. a sickle mower just laying it down flat.
 
That depends in the machine. My 460 New Holland does not put the hay in a windrow but yes some do some do not and some can be set to or not
 
One year when our 5000 was busy with the square baler and bale wagon, we cut all of our hay using our Ford 2000 3cyl diesel 6 speed trans. using a 9 foot MF 925 haybine. The tractor handled it well the biggest drawback was the tractor did not have LPTO. IT has about 32 HP
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I've been doing square bales for 9 years with a nh 469 (9 foot)haybine has regular guards with 1974 3 cylinder 8 speed ford gas tractor. I run at 1800 rpms and 3 rd gear have to drop down to 2 nd gear if real thick or damp and does a great job.Last year I bought a 479 nh haybine (9 foot)with stub guards and cut in 4 th gear and have never had to drop to lower gears and probably could run in 5 th but not going to push it.
Joe
 

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