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tjandrews

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A neighbor has to quit farming due to age and health, and has given us this tedder. He insisted it is a Fahr, but some time with Google images makes me think it's a Kuhn GF 440T. Can anybody confirm this?

If so, there are New Holland and John Deere equivalent models, and a dealer for each within 12 miles, in case parts are needed. It looks to be in fair shape, especially for one that's free. One basket has a timing problem, and two of the tires are flat, and the wheel angle adjustment lever on two of the wheels is broken, and it needs some tines, but that's relatively minor stuff.
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It's not an exact copy of my John Deere, but very similar. I'd bet a good many parts would exchange?
 
Looks like a Kuhn. I have one with two speed gearbox and most fahrs that I have seen have wider tires like the front of a lawn mower.
 
Yup, that's a GF 440t Kuhn tedder. I have one just like it skinny tires too. Must have
been made over 30 years ago. Good tedder and parts are still available. Your neighbor
took good care of it based on the picture.
 

Looks exactly like my 440T. You can't kill them. I will suggest checking the bearings and gear oil in the gear box. You need to remove the front cover to do that. I can see that there is enough wear on the nearer drive socket to cause your timing problem. Though I keep a spare one, I just build the wear surface up with weld. Timing being off can also cause the need to lower a basket and turn it a tooth. Take off a wheel and check to be sure that it has sealed bearings. They were built with open bearings that didn't last long. Besides the spare drive socket I keep a spare mounted tire on hand, and the nut that holds it on as well as the spacer that holds the tines in place. Check the bolts that hold the arms on.
 
The rotor with the timing problem is floppy, as if it had a bad bearing. If the roll pins are OK, it may need an additional washer under it to lift it where it belongs, too. You can pick it up and down about the space of a washer.

I read a post somewhere that the easiest way to work on those baskets was to flip the machine over. Is that true? If so, would you roll it to the side, folded as it is, or unfold it and roll it over backwards? Either way, I'm hesitant. It sounds like it would be a good way to bend up the tines, the arms that hold them, and the rotors themselves to me. But jacking it up in the air and keeping it stable doesn't look easy, either.
 
(quoted from post at 06:58:21 03/15/16) The rotor with the timing problem is floppy, as if it had a bad bearing. If the roll pins are OK, it may need an additional washer under it to lift it where it belongs, too. You can pick it up and down about the space of a washer.

I read a post somewhere that the easiest way to work on those baskets was to flip the machine over. Is that true? If so, would you roll it to the side, folded as it is, or unfold it and roll it over backwards? Either way, I'm hesitant. It sounds like it would be a good way to bend up the tines, the arms that hold them, and the rotors themselves to me. But jacking it up in the air and keeping it stable doesn't look easy, either.
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I usually back mine into the shop and pick it up from the back with my forklift. But some people don't have one of those. A couple of times I have flipped it upside down over backwards with the side baskets extended. I did it with my forklift, but of course you could do it easily with your tractor loader. This reminds me that I need to take a drive around and find mine so that I can go get it with a tractor and bring it in for service.
 
Go ahead and turn it over, won't hurt it nearly as much as it will hurt your temper working it right side up. Check the roll pins that hold it together, much easier to replace now than pick up pieces scattered over 40 feet of windrow. The timing can be pretty sloppy, as long as it is correct in the direction of the load when in operation.
 
We don't have a fork lift, OR a loader. (We're pretty low-budget around here.) But, we do have a homemade lift boom that should do the trick.
 
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