New Holland 570 vs Deere 338

Bill VA · Nov 26, 2015

Out and about some today and saw a New Holland 570. Looked like a pretty simple machine - had hydraulic tension. First time I really had a chance to see the rotary feed set-up. Looks drop dead simple.

I gather the 575 is pretty much the same baler, only wider pickup and the latest models BC5060 and BC5070 are similar maybe with a few improvements?

How does the 570 stack up against the JD 338 in terms of capacity and overall bale shape? Will it make a consistent brick like a JD baler without a fuss? I assume the packer forks eliminate any potential for a banana bale?

Anyone use hydro tension? Is is a real advantage over springs and cranks?

Just curious.

HAPPY THANKSGIVING!!!!!!!!

Thanks,
Bill

MikeinKy · Nov 26, 2015

I have a 570. I think it would be closer to 348 capacity than 338. It has been a good baler, no problems other than some adjustments. I haven't baled in the same field, but a neighbor with a JD 348 said he didn't think his baler would take hay like my baler would. I had a 273 before and banana bales were a problem if things weren't just right. With this one I haven't had any trouble with bale shape. I use a Kuhns accumulator and it has to have good tight bales to work right. I am happy with my 570.

Albert Goerzen · Nov 26, 2015

I work for a New Holland dealer in western Canada. We have hundreds of square balers out there. Most are 575's and BC5070's There are a few 326's still in use. They stack up to a JD 348 quite comparibly, although some of the guys will say when rains comin, you better have a NH if your going to get it done. Both make good bales. There is still a few Hesston balers around, but they are really slow, and the string is on the cut side of the bale, making it tough on the hands to handle. There is nothing simpler and more dependable than the rotary feeder. Most of my customers bale 20-30000 bales per year with their balers, in a single hay cut, (1 cut per year).

ztrmower · Nov 27, 2015

i ran 570 for about nine years with accumulator had a deere before. the deere was better with the accumulator by far 570 you need large windrow and keep it stuffed. it didn't like damp hay as well either. i always wanted 348 deere to compare but got out of business instead. best thing i did there.

DeltaRed · Nov 27, 2015

The 570 is a bigger baler than a 338.Both however are darn good balers.Hydro tension is great. Once you use it,you wont go back.However,my 'vote' goes to the inline' type.I 'fell in' to one(CIH 8530) 3 years ago.Unbelieveable capacity,rock hard,great consistent shape,and NEVER a 'banana' bale.Best baler I've ever run. the baler of my dreams....

Loosehandle · Nov 27, 2015

The best baler is one that ties

Hay maker2 · Nov 28, 2015

The NH 570 / 575 are relatively new and the 338 / 348 are still in production. Both great machines. It really comes down to which color of machine you like and the type of throwers / ejectors that you like.

2510Paul · Nov 28, 2015

Albert, who has a rotary feeder? Do mean an auger like the JD or is there something else you are referring to? Paul

Albert Goerzen · Nov 29, 2015

Rotary Feeder is what NH calls the feeder system the 565-570-575 and newer balers. The 320-326 use a feeder carriage which has many more moving parts. When one of those grenades, it gets messy. The only moving parts on a rotary feeder is a roller chain to drive it. It uses an adjustable packer fork to fill the chamber, to correct "banana" shaped bales.

Casey in Ky · Nov 30, 2015

I've been using a 570 for the past 6 or 7 seasons. I've also owned a NH 273 and 565. The 570 has been a superb baler for me. My personal best has been 581 bales in about hour and 15 minutes. When I first bought the baler I was having some feeding issues, but I adjusted the packing fork over a couple of notches and have had no issues since then, even in light windrows. But these balers are made to take the hay, and a lot of it. I wouldn't want to run it with anything less than 60hp.

I can't comment on the Deere, no real experience with it. The 570's have been made since late 80's, either 88 or 89. The newer model number is the same baler, bc5060. The 565 or bc5050 does not have the same feeder system. The 565/bc5050 has the NH "Flow Action" feed system, which is pretty much the same feeder system they've used for years. The 570/Bc5060 moves up the Rotary feed system, which is very simple and nice. I've not had an issue with since I've owned my baler, but I have read that people say its a bear to time if something does go wrong.

Albert Goerzen · Nov 30, 2015

You must of been haulin' fanny. I recommend 14 strokes per bale to make a consistent bale, which is about 400 per hour. I know they'll take it faster, down to 8 strokes, but the bale quality starts to deteriorate. To pick with a balewagon, they need to be about 38 inches long.

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