450 vs 8200 grain drill

toplink · Nov 19, 2015

I'm looking to replace my old Van Brunt drill this year on my small farm. I have found several in my area for sale, mostly 450 units, but I find the cost prohibitive for me. I have found a decent 8200 locally and am wondering from those who have used them, what are the biggest differences in the two models?

Thanks in advance,

Tim

NY 986 · Nov 19, 2015

If a fluted cup feed then no difference in that mechanism going from the 8000 series to the 450. If a double disc opener then the shank and spring is a little heavier for a 450 versus an 8000 series. We have both currently and like the feed cup is open to the front where it can be watched versus the IH where the feed is to the back.

Tx Jim · Nov 19, 2015

IIRC 450 drives from only one end of drill but 8200 drives each half of feed cups from each end.

toplink · Nov 19, 2015

Just for clarity, is the IIRC450 the same unit as the John Deere 450? I should have made that clear. Both units I'm speaking of are John Deere units. Sorry, I tried to edit that but it won't let me.

Tim

Tim(nj) · Nov 19, 2015

IIRC means 'if I recall correctly', so he is indeed talking about the JD 450.

toplink · Nov 19, 2015

(quoted from post at 11:00:26 11/19/15) IIRC means 'if I recall correctly', so he is indeed talking about the JD 450.

BWAHAHAHA....oh man, geez! Cyber....obviously not my thing. Too funny.

Tx Jim · Nov 19, 2015

(quoted from post at 18:21:14 11/19/15)

(quoted from post at 11:00:26 11/19/15) IIRC means 'if I recall correctly', so he is indeed talking about the JD 450.

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BWAHAHAHA....oh man, geez! Cyber....obviously not my thing. Too funny.

Correct me if I'm wrong but weren't you seeking an answer to your question on CYBER space???????????? If so then Cyber space must be your thing but you just don't choose to admit it.
Have a nice night,Jim

bteny10 · Nov 19, 2015

my brother tries to cut expenses as much as possible so don't ever use a drill again if you throw dry fertilizer put it in with
it an spring tooth it in sn done

4020 electrician · Nov 20, 2015

Make sure the units are descent unless you plan on
a total rebuild. I picked up a 450 and put Burrells
units on it. Works good in sandy loam ground as
notill.

toplink · Nov 21, 2015

(quoted from post at 16:45:20 11/19/15)

(quoted from post at 18:21:14 11/19/15)

(quoted from post at 11:00:26 11/19/15) IIRC means 'if I recall correctly', so he is indeed talking about the JD 450.

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BWAHAHAHA....oh man, geez! Cyber....obviously not my thing. Too funny.

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Correct me if I'm wrong but weren't you seeking an answer to your question on CYBER space???????????? If so then Cyber space must be your thing but you just don't choose to admit it.
Have a nice night,Jim

Damn Jim....I meant in reference to "speaking" cyber...as in, knowing what "IIRC" meant. I actually could care less about things such as emoticons, and texting vernacular, I just wanted to know about an implement. Your long on mouth and short on ears. I was laughing at myself, not you. If you can't help, or your goal is to play BMIC (Big Man In Cyber), then I would appreciate it if you would just keep your snarky comments to yourself.

Tx Jim · Nov 22, 2015

(quoted from post at 23:17:26 11/21/15)

Damn Jim....I meant in reference to "speaking" cyber...as in, knowing what "IIRC" meant. then I would appreciate it if you would just keep your snarky comments to yourself.[/quote]

Toplink
I see your a new comer to this forum with only 32 posts. If you care to check my other replies you'll find that I try to give correct information. I think IIRC is far from a "snarky comment"!!! I still think a JD 450 drill drives the feed shaft from only one end. I hope you have a nice day.
Jim

toplink · Nov 22, 2015

Jim, you know which comment I'm referencing. You basically called me a liar for saying Cyber wasn't my thing. Now, you may not have meant it that way, and I'm willing to give you benefit of doubt, but that's the way it seemed, and certainly the way I took it. Your comment pertaining to the drill was welcomed and appreciated, but your followup was not.

Now, as far as I'm concerned, that's it unless you want to continue picking at it?

You have a nice day Jim.

Tim

Tx Jim · Nov 22, 2015

toplink
I re-read my original post and I see no way I called you a LIAR.
Jim

bteny10 · Nov 22, 2015

toplink what experience do you have in this discussion tx jim has given me nothing but god advice he is fairly knowledgeable be
careful

bteny10 · Nov 22, 2015

toplink i take it you did not read my answer to your problem would you like to repeat it again

bteny10 · Nov 23, 2015

Answer my quote to your problem we solved that problem years ago my solution to your question was an is dont use a drill at all
we haven't used a drill for over 10 years your solution

bteny10 · Nov 23, 2015

toplink have you read my solution to the problem wanting to know what you think about my idea of your question an problem

toplink · Nov 24, 2015

Sorry, been away from the computer. I did read your message, and I had to re-read it a few times to understand what you meant. I believe you are suggesting a spring tooth harrow.....tillage prep the ground and broadcast the wheat and fertilizer then cover the crop using something like a cultipacker or drag??? Is this correct? That may be a viable option, as I'm sure I can purchase the harrow much cheaper than a drill, but I have seen spotty results in the past with the broadcast and cover method. We used to set out disc straight, cut the rows shallow, then broadcast the crop and followup with either a drag harrow, cultipacker, or both to cover it. The problems were that we could never hold a consistent depth with our disk, the spreader wastes a lot of crop and adds extra steps with covering. Mainly we just saw poor results planting that way.

As far as my conversation with TxJim goes, the comment I took issue with wasn't his post about the grain drill drive wheels (I'm certain his advice is sound on subject), but something else entirely, and is between Jim and myself. I do however regret airing that issue on the open forum and realize I should have handled that directly with him.

I do however stand by my assessment of the comment in question.

Thanks for your suggestion,

Tim

bteny10 · Nov 24, 2015

ya when you throw your dry fertilizer on put your wheat in with it then spring tooth it in we have no problem at all

toplink · Nov 25, 2015

Prep the ground, then broadcast the wheat and fertilizer, followed by springtoothing over it? Do you cultipack behind it?

Tim

bteny10 · Nov 25, 2015

no not at all last year was bad for our area winter kill late freeze so not very good yield but the cheapest way to planr wheat

toplink · Nov 25, 2015

(quoted from post at 19:01:58 11/25/15) no not at all last year was bad for our area winter kill late freeze so not very good yield but the cheapest way to planr wheat

Thanks for sharing.

Tim

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