bale lenght

joe201 · Nov 5, 2015

I have a new holland 275 baler it does a good job but lately I've been getting maybe 20 short bales( 6 inches shorter) out of 300. The groves on the metering wheel are good (new a couple years ago), everything looks OK. Anyone have any ideals or thoughts?
Thanks Joe

old · Nov 5, 2015

If you hit an area where the windrows are real thick and big it can cause that as can an area that is thin and small can cause a longer bale

rrlund · Nov 5, 2015

How's the spring that holds the arm in to the wheel?

Case Nutty 1660 · Nov 5, 2015

agree on checking the spring, I have also seen the wheel on the star wheel shaft be loose a slip at times

flying belgian · Nov 5, 2015

Is something preventing the arm from falling all the way down? If it was the spring as was mentioned the bales would be long not short.

Tx Jim · Nov 6, 2015

If field is rough and LH tire air pressure is too high this can cause measuring arm to bounce up when it drops after tripping if a rough spot is encountered at the correct moment

Case Nutty 1660 · Nov 6, 2015

OPS again not thinking You are correct,,, check the trip inside the gear on the knotters, I have seen a broken spring inside it and let it trip to often,, sorry for my incorrect info
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vapet · Nov 6, 2015

Trip arm will also wear. Had a 276 back in the day, and would have to build up with weld and grind back to shape every couple of years.

Bill VA · Nov 7, 2015

Couple of things come to mind.

1st is the knurled wheel on the trip arm. Is it worn smooth? The one on my NH68 was and I replaced it - easy fix.

2nd thing that comes to mind is - how thick are your flakes going into your bale? If they are thick - and I've had 5ish inch flakes going into my baler off the plunger. If the bale is on the edge of tripping, the thick flakes could make the bale that much longer or shorter. For me - the remedy to consistent bale length was to slow the ground speed and run the baler at 540 rpms such that I was getting 15ish flakes to a bale.

Good luck,
Bill

RJKeith · Nov 7, 2015

I agree with you Old, first thing I would look for is consistency of windrows and how the baler is packing the bale chamber. Do the shorter ones seam a little heavier on one side? If so, the heavier hay is turning the star wheel faster. Sort of the same thing with longer bales, but lighter hay to one side doesn't turn the star wheel as well.

Albert Goerzen · Nov 16, 2015

The reason for short bales is the trip arm not falling all the way down when it resets during a tie. Check the clearance between the trip arm and the roller when the arm is back (and falling down). Trip the knotter and roll the flywheel over by hand in the proper direction. When the trip arm falls, roll the flywheel a little further. Check to make sure the cam follower by the knotter clutch is at the highest point, pushing the trip arm to the rear. At this point the trip arm should be at least 1/8 - 3/16 inch from the roller on the metering wheel, looking down along the trip arm between the sides of the roller. If the clearance is too small, the metering wheel is bolted to the top of the bale case on slotted holes. Move the metering wheel ahead slightly to get the proper clearance.

Andy Martin · Nov 16, 2015

Also check the pivot on the trip arm, if it is too loose, the trip arm can occasionally, based on baler movement, wiggle side to side and not fall down before the next tie cycle catches it and starts it back up. This will happen randomly and won't happen with the baler being hand fed and not moving. Things like serrations worn off and slipping star wheel of course make long bales not short bales.

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