Manual for a Deere No.5 Caster-Wheel Sickle Mower

rmorman

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Hello,
I was looking online at Operators manuals for my sickle mower. The internet has several available. Was wondering the difference in these part numbers that I found with a quick Google search:
OM-H10-156
OM-H10-1148
OM-H10-351

I don't know if it matters, but the cover on the gearbox has this number:
Z1051-H

I ASSUME these are just different printings, but any help is appreciated.

Russ
 
The last digits are printing dates, January, 1956, November, 1948, and March, 1951.

Not much changed on those mowers over the years (after some pitman part changes early on), but the later printings would include more and later information on mounting the mower to various tractors.

Any idea how old your mower is?

Below is a link to the parts manual (free) direct from DEERE (.pdf format). There is some info in it that MAY help narrow down the age of your mower a bit.
PC0466
 
Mine does not have a belt. Looks like that makes it pre-1945?

The looks of the upper cover might also make it a 1937 and newer.




Mine does have the crank wheel. I only see that in the '45-'46 model showing the Pitman arm.

Betting it is a 1937-1945?????

Another thing is the PTO Shaft has been modified and I'm missing the 2nd half. I have an original replacement, but would mean cutting off the additional welded part below:



Thoughts on that?

Thanks again,
Russ
 

Just to clarify, if I buy a OM_H10-(1-56) operators manual, it will have all generations info in it regardless of what year mine is. Correct?

THANKS!
 
"<font color="#6699ff">[b:654c4848f0][i:654c4848f0]Was wondering the difference in these part numbers that I found with a quick Google search:[/i:654c4848f0][/b:654c4848f0]</font>"



Agree with [b:654c4848f0]Bob[/b:654c4848f0] that "[i:654c4848f0]The last digits are printing dates, January, 1956, November, 1948, and March, 1951.[/i:654c4848f0]"

Take a <a href="https://youtu.be/zytzhAxRVsY">look at this video</a> to see the changes to the front cover of the operator's manual over the years.
 
"<font color="#6699ff">[b:654c4848f0][i:654c4848f0]Just to clarify, if I buy a OM_H10-(1-56) operators manual, it will have all generations info in it regardless of what year mine is. Correct?[/i:654c4848f0][/b:654c4848f0]</font>"

It will contain the basic information on lubrication, operation, adjustments, and service that is necessary for all No. 5 sickle mowers.

Hope this helps.
 

It sure does help. I just didn't want it to be like an automotive service manual that only has information for a set number of years. Looks like any of them, including the 1956 print I'm looking at buying, should have all the service info for the 1937-1945 model I THINK mine is. Correct?

On a second note, any idea WHY somebody would have modified the PTO shaft the way they did? I'm hoping that I can cut off the added piece provided that the center of the sleeve is not worn out inside. Then I can use the original style shaft that I acquired today. Could it just be a simple extension for the PTO shaft?

Russ
 
"<font color="#6699ff">[b:654c4848f0][i:654c4848f0]Looks like any of them, including the 1956 print I'm looking at buying, should have all the service info for the 1937-1945 model I THINK mine is. Correct?[/i:654c4848f0][/b:654c4848f0]</font>"

Yes, the service information will be basically the same for all the No. 5 sickle mowers.

"<font color="#6699ff">[b:654c4848f0][i:654c4848f0]any idea WHY somebody would have modified the PTO shaft the way they did?[/i:654c4848f0][/b:654c4848f0]</font>"

Take a look at the diagram below.

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Note the slip clutch telescoping sleeve (Key 13) and square shaft (Key 18).

Take a look at the list below.

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Note that the square shaft was available in lengths from 18 inches to 30 inches depending on the tractor.

Pure speculation on my part, but one of the previous owners may have attached the No. 5 sickle mower Quik-Tach hitch to 3pt draft arms.

This would have placed the mower farther away from the tractor drawbar where it is designed to be attached.

The 30 inch square shaft may not have been long enough for the longer distance from the drawbar.

Take a look at the "farmer tech" category 1 bar on "Ben Franklin" one of out No. 5 mowers fabricated to work on category 1 draft arms.

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Hope this helps.
 

I got an operators manual shipped to my house from e-bay for $10. Should be here by Friday. Downloaded the parts catalog off the internet as well.

Is there any reason that I can't use the "extended sleeve" with the replacement factory shaft? I can't seem to think of one.



Russ
 
A PO MAY have installed the sleeve to allow the use of a modern (HOPEFULLY shielded) front half of the driveline, NOT an uncommon thing to do in farm country, with some of this older stuff.

If the OEM shaft will fit properly into the sleeve and there's enough room for the assembly to collapse as much as it may need to in use, you don't have to cut the sleeve off if you don't want to.

I can't remember if the OEM shaft is square or rectangular... if rectangular, the joints should be timed/phased properly when you install the shaft.

If square, you need to be aware of timing/phasing the joints. See Page 4 at the link below.
Phasing
 

Phasing. Good lesson. Thanks!

My cousin had 3 x of the No.5's in his grove. Got the portion (square shaft) of the PTO I was missing.

This mower has been in my family for 30 years. Not been used much in the last 15. Somebody moved it a couple years ago and that is how the original shaft was misplaced.

However, I'm 85% sure it was not my family who modified this "sleeve" so I can't confirm why it was modified. I'll test fit everything and after I replace the Pitman arm and do some maintenance, I'll give it a go.

Thanks all!
 
Be sure you got the correct length shaft at there were several different lengths avaible for different model tractors. Longer or shorter could be distrastrus.
 
Seems the part about phasing could have some more worded description. Unless a person has actually handled a PTO and had the phasing pointed out and explained, it isn't totally obvious by just looking at a picture as this referenced document does. The "untrained eye" wouldn't necessarily see the meaning of phasing.
 
The online parts books should show what shaft goes to what tractor. I know for the older Ford & Ferguson tractors they take a longer shaft than for a Deere A or B.. Also the older frames are different than the newer ones. For a time when I was able to be colecting machinery I had a pair of No. 5 and a No. 8 Mower. Long gone now.
 

Due to some longer work hours, I didn't get pictures taken last night. This mower will be going back on the only tractor it has been hitched to since we've owned the mower (340 Farmall). The difference is I have no idea if my replacement PTO shaft is the same length as the one that I can't find. I'll get those pictures.

Russ
 
If i can help, i have a Master catalog for a #5 JD mower, operator manuals, Brochures and lots of good parts including driveshafts, NOS 2
piece U-joints, footlifts, mounting brackets, etc..
 
Sweet!
Thanks for the offer! If I need ANYTHING, I'll be in touch. Got my manual in the mail and now I'm just finishing up a couple unrelated projects so I can get to this one.
 

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