(quoted from post at 06:50:24 08/12/15) The SMALLER & TIGHTER you make the SQUARE KNOT the better it will feed thru the KNOTTER, game of chance. There is no other way to feed in next BALL!
(quoted from post at 07:52:54 08/12/15) You're over thinking this. Just tie it on, and forget it. I tie 100's of balls of twine on every year, and just stick them in and use a sheet bend knot. Sometimes I'll use a square knot, and it doesn't seem to matter either way. I have almost zero failures, and I don't trim the ends, or try to make them small. Sometimes the tails will be 3-4" long, and it doesn't cause any trouble.
David
(quoted from post at 14:19:41 08/12/15) Shealray,
Here's one more observation. I, too, use a tightly pulled square knot on the ends of the twine to join the old roll to the new roll. However, about
25% of the time, my knot gets hung up in the knotter and causes a tangle around the billhook. I use a long-bladed pocket knife to cut the tangle
loose and clear out the mess. Then, I have to restring the twine through the needle just as I would if there were no twine in the baler.
Good luck. Maybe your knots will go through with no problem.
Tom in TN
(quoted from post at 00:05:43 08/13/15)(quoted from post at 14:19:41 08/12/15) Shealray,
Here's one more observation. I, too, use a tightly pulled square knot on the ends of the twine to join the old roll to the new roll. However, about
25% of the time, my knot gets hung up in the knotter and causes a tangle around the billhook. I use a long-bladed pocket knife to cut the tangle
loose and clear out the mess. Then, I have to restring the twine through the needle just as I would if there were no twine in the baler.
Good luck. Maybe your knots will go through with no problem.
Tom in TN
Yup. Second that. My brother bales about 30,000 small squares per year. That's at least 60 twine changes per year. His knotters are well tuned, and his baler misses very few bales. He always connects new spools by tying the outside tail of the old spool to the inside (center) tail of the new spool with a square knot trimmed to look just like the knot that the baler makes. Even so, when his knotters do have a problem, a high percentage of them happen at changeover to the new ball of twine.
-Every once in a while, his knot catches on the billhook, as described above.
-He always uses natural (sisal) twine, and some years he gets spools that pull hard out of the center. (He has now developed a habit of pulling a foot or two out of the new spools to test how hard it pulls. If it doesn't pull out smoothly, he'll pull five or ten feet out of the spool until it does pull smoothly.)
-There is a little spring-loaded clamp that the twine feeds through on the side of the twine box of the baler. Every once in a while, a knot will catch there. (this can be adjusted, if you feel that it's too tight)
All of those things just fall under "stuff happens" there's "knot" much you can do about it.
One tip that could save you from pain, especially true on New Holland balers: If you ever have to undo the bolt on the rear of the knotter to rotate them up in order to clear a jam or for any other repair...WATCH YOUR HANDS! The act of rotating the knotter moves the wiper arm, which has the little knife blade on it that cuts off the twine after the knot is made. If your fingers are in the wrong spot when you rotate the knotter assembly....you'll get a nasty cut, or pinch. No fun.
(quoted from post at 10:38:22 08/14/15) No trick - simple square knot as others have said. Just be sure it's an actual square knot - there's a 50/50
chance you'll do it wrong - google square knot if you're unsure. And then be sure to pull it very tight.
Don't think in terms of this process "failing" -
Instead look at is a quick ATTEMPT to get out of restringing your new roll.
Usually you get lucky and it works, saving you the restringing effort. Sometimes it doesn't and you just end
up having to do it the hard way.
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