46 baler

Hi,

I bought a 46 baler. No manuals and the sticker on the twine box door is pretty much all gone. Looking for help on how to thread the twine. Hope anyone can help.

Thank you

First thing you should do is buy the manuals. A 46 is tricky to get to tie correctly and the manuals are a big help. I have spent a lot of time with the manuals. I'm going from memory here so I hope I'm right (I have a 46). Run both stings through the tensioner in the twine box and through the eyes (one before the needles) and one for each needle. Thread through the eye of each needle and bring the twine up through the bale chamber, lay it over the twine disk on each knotter and tie it off somewhere further away from the knotter. I use the bar over the bale chamber where you set the tension. Next run some hay through it until you see some hay clear the knotter area. Turn the wheel and make the baler tie a knot. At that point the twine you tied off should be cut off at the knotter and you can remove it completely. Your next bale should come out OK. Some things you want to do before you start - make sure there is a spring on each hay retainer (hay retainers are on top and bottom) and make sure the cutting knives are as sharp as you can get them. Manual also says sisal twine only. You can get the baler to work pretty well but everything has to be set correctly. Any slack in the twine when it goes to tie will result in a missed knot. If the tension to tighten the knot is too tight it will break the string trying to remove the knot from the bill hooks. Make sure the twine is 9000 or 7200 if you can find it.

I noticed that at the bottom of the chamber there is what appears to be pulleys lining up with the needles. Is there a use for those?

Thanks Charlie M

Yes. The pulleys guide the string as the bale is being made.They must roll freely. Look at the guides. Deep grooves are common on old balers. fill,replace parts,file them smooth..... As was said,Before you do anything else...buy and READ thew owners manual. A baler is for too complicated to 'wing it'. Especially for a 'newby'/beginner. Good luck and happy baleing!

I don't think you have to run it up through the bale chamber do you? I haven't had a square baler since 1981,but I remember we just ran it through the eye of the needle then brought it back and tied it to the yoke that the needles bolt to. Then trip the knotter and it feeds itself in to the knotter and holds. You'll have a tail still tied to the yoke that'll have to be cut off.

On a 46 you have to run it through so the twine disks can grab it to make the first knot.

Hi, ran an IH 46 baler for many years. Rrlund is correct, just feed the twine through the eye of each needle, tie twine to needle carriage and trip the knotter, the needles with thread the twine into the knotters.
Make sure the plunger safety block is working properly and the spring is not broken. The plunger safety block is located in the bottom of the bale chamber and is activated every time the needles protrude into the bale chamber. If it is not working chances are that the plunger will hit the needles at sometime.

JimB

Thank you very much for the info. I will take every bit of info and give it a go! I am sure I will be back for more advice!!!

Charlie, I've had problems with the knot not wanting to come off the bill hook and breaking twine. I've read thru the manual, also have the knotter supplement manuel. So the tension in the twine box may be too tight?? I was thinking that maybe the bill hook was damaged, faulty, worn out. The thing will make 5-6-7 in a row then break the twine like you've described. I replaced this baler with a New Holland, so it is my "back-up", but always liked the bales it produced, just could not get it to not miss. I did recently put the new style knifes on each side also replaced what appeared to be a worn cord holder on one side. And maybe stupidly am willing to throw a few more dollars at the thing. But as I said, I like the bales it puts out when it is working. gobble

Tension on the bill hook can be too tight. There is an adjustment for that. Also you can't use twine thinner that the 9000 twine.

Thanks Charlie M, Will look at that. I think previous owner has the spring compressed about as far as that will go. I'll reread thru manuel and probably back that off and see what it does. Again thank you. Most of the comments on Int. 46 balers are negative. Thanks for your experienced problem solving skills. gobble