What you guys think?

Don-Wi

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I looked at this baler and rake today. Sounds like they've had them for about 15 years and made enough hay for a couple horses every year, always kept outside. The baler had a very rotted bale inside the chamber, but she said it already worked for them. It's an ih 435 baler. I know they're better than the older models but still an ih baler none the less. She tried looking
on craigslist but it's flooded with nh balers so no price comparison.

The rake is a 56 and the shaft is pretty cobbled from the wheel to the gearbox. Turns freely, teeth look good.

What would you guys think they're worth?

Donovan from Wisconsin
 
I'd check where the rotted bale was and make sure it hasn't rotted the metal in the bale chamber.I've heard the 435 and 440's were decent balers.If the price was right I'd buy it. I'd suggest getting a manual for the knotters.I've seen the balers go for around a $1000 around here but they had a thrower attached.
 
I'd say by the photos and info, if she wants to sell them and move on, $1500 for the pair should be fair to both buyer and seller.
 
IF cleaned up, that is probably an $800 rake here in my country! On the other hand, I don't know anyone that would touch a baler if it didn't say NH on it... Probably $1000 for the pair... Start there, go up a little...
 
I see those balers advertised for 1500.00 and up here but I don't know if they actually bring that. I put 1500.00 in the drive line of my New Holland rake last year. That was just for parts. So judge accordingly.
 
I paid 300. For a rake like that and was offered 800 for it . They hold their value. Bale
r looks good . Offer a grand and go up from there
 

Can you take some old bales of hay there, break them, and feed the baler to try it out? Also put some fresh twine in.

KEH
 
My neighbor has had old balers and nothing but trouble, both NH and IH. Finally he bought a newer NH 315. It seems OK.

The older IH my neighbor had was nothing but trouble but I am pretty sure it was an older model. Was there a IH 43 or IH 45? Anyway, even the dealer told me he bought the worst baler IH ever made. The NH worked well for some time but I think finally suffered the fate of wear out.

Anyway, I see people pay good money to buy used-up equipment. Makes me just shake my head. Look these items over carefully, e.g. knotters, bale chamber, hitch, driveline etc. Someone suggested running some hay through it, great idea. The rake, well if it is straight a few dollars can make it new, e.g. teeth and bearings.

Good luck.

Paul, La Crosse WI
 
YES there was a 45 McCormick baler, first small twine baler IHC made, early 50's, and they are the ones to stay away from, a lot of people think that because the 45 was bad (and some say their 45's are good) that all McCormick balers are bad. I had a 46 and it was OK.
 
The 435 is a IH baler, pure and simple. It uses the latest IH McCormick knotter called a all twine. It is considerably different than the earlier knotter IH used on 37, 46 etc but it still ties the double diameter (bow) knot. The twine knife is moved across the twine from a lobe on the cam of the knotter drive whereas the earlier knotters the twine knife is stationary. Different style cord holders also but most of the rest is very similar. I never became proficient working on that all twine because it would do different kinds of things. The book has a very elaborate section on diagnosing knot problems. We only sold a couple of that model. Later on, IH quit making balers (in USA anyway) and bought them from someone else. They used the conventional knotter like other brands. (The one that held and cut both twines then stripped knot off bill with the stripper). We always called that the Deering knotter. All the McCormick knotters pulled the knot off the hook with movement of the bale in chamber. . The Deering style knotter was also used on the old 50T ( lord help you) IH balers. The heads moved down into positon when tying a bale on them. Way too much moving machinery. Ever wonder why they called all more modern style balers, timed separation balers. On the old, old balers, the plunger actually stopped during the tying cycle. Talk about a bunch of machinery.
 

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