Old wagon picturs

In the second folder you can see where the tongue has been modified to make it connect to a draw bar. In the last picture you can see what is most likely all that is left of the original wood.
Frank

I am having trouble getting more than one picture to post. It has been years since I have posted images and I need to figure it out again.

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Good luck. With this new messed up system I can only get one to load. It's like there's a 24 hour wait to load another one.

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It looks like I can only upload two pictures if they are both the same.

That's a John Deere gear - perhaps a 952 or 953 based on the rear bolster supports. Someone has messed with the front bolster and removed the correct front bolster supports and replaced them with - well, whatever you got there.

offandgone, what you have is a 953 or 963 John Deere wagon I don't know what you are talking about wood tongue, looks factory to me except the part where it connects to tractor. Should be bolted on instead of welded. Other than that there is nothing wrong with it. Gordy need more info call me 612-986-615one

I had trouble posting pictures and the one I referred to as the second one ended up being the first one. The wood I referred to is the runners you can see the ends of.

Thanks for the help.
Frank

Those are called sills.

That wagon has been badly abused. the bolster has been broken and welded and both sides the bolster supports are not orignal and the hitch straps on front end of the toung are homemade as the orignals were probley broken off by someone trying to turn to short. I cannot tell from the picture if it is just the way the picture was taken or not or if the back end of the toung is twisted or not but it is likely it is to have the front of the toung like it is. Have not yet found a way to tell for sure the difference between the 953 and 963, My books might tell, but I think the axle is just a bit heavier on the 963 as it is a 5 ton gear and 953-952 is a 4 ton gear and the most popular. I think on the 963 the channel of the toung was boxed in to make it stronger but it is interchangeable on both. If you have the screw on dust caps on the wheels it could be either a 952 or a 953 and only part num,ber on the cap and hub would tell us what it is. If you have the drive in grease caps it is a later gear and could be either a 953 or 963. If you can give those numbers and a picture of the wheel with the parts books we can tell a lot closer to what you have.

The numbers were 7 H 109. I will not try to do anything with the trailer that involves many $$. Maybe put some bails of hay on it and give the kids a ride.
Thanks for your help.
Frank

Earlier 953. And to gier you a value I just a couple of weeks ago bought at a consignment auction 3 of them. One was later model with a bent coupling pole and toung extended over 4 feet and steering stiff as a board, next the age you have that is just a Deere front axle mated to a Cobey rear axle with homemade boulster stakes and paid $450 for each, then the best of then one of your age with a wood flat bed that needs work for $525. These are for an Amish machinery dealer and I will get paid to deliever them so you have to have some idea what he will have to put them on his lot for. The first 2 no beds. I also bought him one other odd make gear with a bed only fit for firewood and 3 good running gears with good wood flat grain beds with sideboards that he was needing and a 4 ton David Bradley running gear (same load rating as the Deeres) with a 125 bushel size grain bed. All except the junk bed one was in the $450 to $575 range. Got him 2 plastic sprayer tanks 150 gal size for $40 & $50 each with saddles that he was needing. Your Deere gear is in same range price wise as the 3 Deere gears I bought. Now you have to realize that as he is Amish he will have to replace all those rubber tires with steel wheels at a cost of $80 each for $320 so he will have to get a thousand dollars out of those Deere gears.