Ferguson plows

I have two Ferguson plows. both are 14 in. I will try to post a pic. the red one tag says Ferguson Sherman Mef Corp 14-A. The other tag says Harry Ferguson Inc Type 14-AO-28. .the red plow has wider moldboards. Wonder which is older plow and why the differance.
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I will venture the guess that the gray one is older because it didn't have replaceable frogs. As the plow got used, the frogs wore and the only fix was a whole new moldboard. They plowed really nice when they were in good shape. I notice that neither has coulters. We never would have considered plowing without them on and cutting the sod before turning it. They made for a much nicer plowing job and reduced the power required to pull the plow.
 
Judging from the name plate on the cross beam and the U bolts in the frame I would say the red one is older. 14A FERGUSON/SHERMAN 1939/1942. Bottoms looks like they might have been changed out.

Kirk
 
I think the red one has cast iron top link brackets? That would make it older. The shares have been replaced with modern razor shares.

Here in Nebraska it is rare to find a ferguson or Dearborn plow that still has the coulters. When they turn up on an auction they will hit $300.

I got lucky I bought my Ferguson plow 14-AO-30 with coulters. A 12ft dearborn spring tooth and a 6ft spike tooth from the widow lady next door for $175.00.
 
You wonder about the difference in moldboards. Easy answer. Some one at some time did not want to plow the 7" deep that the plow was orignally designed for but wanted to plow at least 9" deep and that is what the newer bottom on that red plow is designed for as it is a deep tillage bottom and will be verry hard to find moldboard parts for, This was true 30 years ago. That is if the frame is not bent from overloading it by pulling way deeper than the strength of the frame was designed for. Those bottoms were made for the later Massey Ferguson semi mount plows. Have the information on them around here someplace. We had them on a 4-14" plow and could not do a decent job of plowing as we had to go deeper than we wanted to get them to turn the soil over and then they took so much power we could not get any speed up and speed up would have been 3rd gear in a 5000 Ford.
 
Looks to me like the red one has had the frame welded a few times and enforced with scrap metal. That would be from plowing too deep.
 
The red one has been pieced together. It does have the later moldboards with replaceable shins but whoever changed it never changed the frog or saddle as Massey called them. The saddles for the newer throwaway share plows are indeed different from the old style plows with blacksmith shares and one piece moldboards. I own both types. Notice the top of the shin is braced to the moldboard on the red one? It is supposed to be bolted to the saddle. Also somebody put adjustable braces on that red plow. They didn't come that way. Plus it is missing it's tailwheel and the landside is wore thru. Stick with the gray plow. All you need for it is some coulters.
 

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